Bikes with 33bhp?

[m1spw]

I'm already thinking about next year when I can ride a 33bhp bike (yes, I know its over 10 months away, but I can't wait!). I was talking to my dad last night and he said he would like to buy 2 Triumph Daytona 675's, both black, one for him and one for me. I flicked through some pictures and it looks lush. The problem is that its 123bhp, which is a teenie weenie bit over my 33bhp limit till I'm 19.

So what sort of bikes have 33bhp stock set up, that look like proper bikes (i.e. not dirt bikes etc), or where can I find a full listing of bikes? Or if for example I had a bike restricted to 33bhp (which is apparently very easy with bikes like Hondas) what effect does restriction have over time on a bikes engine?

[hugoagogo]

there aren't many (if any) stock bikes that have 33hp, cept maybe unrestricted 125 sports bikes, but they are too light (?) for learners apparently cos they fall outside the power to weight limit

as far as i know, restricted motors don't have any problems re. longevity etc

i'd go for a restricted light-middleweight type of bike, like an SV650, or maybe the new kawa er6

[Pies]

intrestimg read

www.datacraftsystems.co.uk/techniques/techniques_left/law/law0.htm

Basically get a decent bike and restrict it

[rsvmilly]

m1spw said:

So what sort of bikes have 33bhp stock set up, that look like proper bikes

One of the best handling bikes ever;

[FunkyNige]

hugoagogo said:

i'd go for a restricted light-middleweight type of bike, like an SV650, or maybe the new kawa er6

I've got a restricted SV650 and it doesn't hang about...

The restrictor only really affects the top end, so it keeps up with the other 600s up to 70, then it loses out a bit and doesn't really get passed 90.

[Pigeon]

It's dead easy to restrict any engine, simply by fitting stops that prevent the throttles opening further than required for 33bhp max output. I suspect you'd have to get some sort of official endorsement certifying that your restriction worked, though, and I've no idea how you'd go about doing that. I also suspect that even with such a certification insurance would be a bastard.

[m1spw]

Pigeon said:

It's dead easy to restrict any engine, simply by fitting stops that prevent the throttles opening further than required for 33bhp max output. I suspect you'd have to get some sort of official endorsement certifying that your restriction worked, though, and I've no idea how you'd go about doing that. I also suspect that even with such a certification insurance would be a bastard.

I thought it would be quite easy. Not sure about insurance though... So you reckon a Triumph 675 could be an option?

Thought about an RS125 but really I would prefer a bigger bike so I can just have the restrictor taken off when I'm 19 and then keep the bike for maybe another year or two.

Can I ask what you guys would reccomend for a first bike, i.e. a 400/600cc? Thanks

[catso]

I read a few years ago in some bike mag about a Fireblade that they had restricted to 33hp, beauty of it is that it still handles, stops and goes (up to a point) like a blade, then when you pass your full test you can simply de-restrict it - but it might be too tempting to derestrict anyway
Would imagine that there are some interesting bikes that fit the 33hp category with or without restrictors, I had an Aprilia RS125 for a couple of days as a loan bike from a Ducati dealer and, whilst lacking the grunt of a big bike, was great fun to ride - in a psycho sort of way



>> Edited by catso on Monday 19th September 09:59

[hugoagogo]

yes, and as i said, a full-power rs125 (or cagiva mito or similar) is STILL illegal for a restricted licence because there is a power-to-weight clause, for some reason

[stu 9-5]

The derestricted 2 stroke 125s do break the power to weight ratio. Better for you to get a bigger bike restricted to 33bhp.

If the bike's on carbs it's a mechanical restriction (washers in the carbs to retrict airflow and restrict throttle slide lift). If it's EFI then they chip the bike to 33bhp. FI International are the main supplier of restrictor kits, most bikes are covered. When a bike is restricted you will receive a certificate that your Ins Co will want to see.

Bikes out of the crate under 33bhp are usually smaller commuters (GPz 305, CB250 et al) or some older single cylinder 400s like the SRX400 or DR350/Goose 350.


If you go for a 675 Daytona, apart from finding the £7000 to buy it you'll be looking at £2000+ to insure a 17 year old on a Gp15 brand new bike. [let me know where your old fella's getting his 2 black ones. Last I heard they only came in Red, Yellow or GRAPHITE - and only 50 graphite were allocated for the UK.]

Better to get a ZXR400 or similar (£2300 for a good one), the restrictor kit is £150 plus £50 fitting, TPFT insurance about £5-600 at 17 if you garage and alarm it. Your A2 licence training will cost you about £250 - £350 depending on your ability.

All done and dusted for about £3.5k, that's better than running around in a crappy Corsa at 17 and about the same as what you'd pay for a brand new restricted to 14.6 bhp Aprilia RS 125 with insurance.