RE: Porsche confirms all-electric new Cayenne...
RE: Porsche confirms all-electric new Cayenne...
Thursday 25th July 2024

Porsche confirms all-electric new Cayenne...

...but also commits to selling updated combustion-engined Mk3 alongside as EV targets slip


Perhaps nothing demonstrates the state of flux currently consuming the car industry like Porsche’s announcement of an entirely battery-powered Mk4 Cayenne. Not so long ago, that would have been broadly accepted as the only obvious path for a car to be sold into the 2030s - full steam ahead (or whatever the equivalent is) on EVs. Now, however, with buyer demand cooling and legislation being questioned, to go solely electric looks potentially foolhardy. So Porsche isn’t: when the time comes, the current (recently updated) model will be sold alongside the electric Cayenne. Next stop is diesel’s comeback… 

 “Our product strategy could enable us to deliver more than 80 per cent of our new cars fully electrified in 2030 – depending on the demand of our customers and the development of electromobility in the regions of the world,” said Oliver Blume, Porsche CEO. The first part of that sentence was the original plan of Porsche, with the electric SUVs, Taycan and upcoming 718 EVs able to make up the four-out-of-five number. But now there’s the second, more watery part that it's now factoring in, where more than 20 per cent of customers may still want an engine in their Porsche come 2030. So the company is covering both bases: it’ll have the cars to accommodate an 80:20 mix in favour of EV, or however far the needle swings the other way for combustion. 

The electric Cayenne is still a few years away given the latest, significant refresh of the third generation only arrived last year. When it comes, the EV will be built from the Premium Platform Electric that also underpins the Macan; that’ll mean an 800-volt system and super duper charging capability (the smaller SUV is already at 270kW). Porsche being Porsche, though, the next Cayenne has already undergone a wealth of testing at Weissach and is now out on the public road. The plan is millions of kilometres over every possible terrain and in every climate possible, so that a five-up trip to the in-laws is a breeze.

We’re told to expect ‘familiar Porsche driving characteristics… high efficiency, and a high level of comfort and everyday usability’ from the new car. As for the existing model, work is also underway on further improving that for the next decade. Perhaps most encouragingly for PH, not least after the resoundingly positive impression of the latest GTS, is the continued existence of V8 Cayennes. Porsche says that the efficiency will be improved thanks to ‘extensive technical measures’ that will ensure the ‘twin-turbo engine is ready to comply with future legislative requirements.’ Which sounds like good news to us. 

Obviously in the UK there is still the prospect of no new diesel or petrol cars being sold after 2030 (though we can expect that target to be extensively lobbied the closer it gets) but with the unit now well-established among the firm's plug-in hybrid options, that is unlikely to deny it to buyers keen to stick with a large combustion engine in their Cayenne. 

Porsche hasn’t confirmed exactly when we’ll see the electric version. As mentioned, it seems a little way off given the timing of both the Macan and latest Cayenne. But with a battery-powered Range Rover very much closer on the horizon as well, it looks like being a good time for those after an EV SUV. Or a petrol-powered SUV, for that matter. Or, let’s be honest, any SUV the heart so desires. 


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jenkosrugby

Original Poster:

256 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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I know......Lets all have a debate on the merits and disadvantages of EV's.

griffsomething

406 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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I wonder how long Porsche will keep selling the petrol Macan alongside the electric one as it’s ten years old now! Still a desirable car I’m sure, but getting on a bit!

fantheman80

2,608 posts

78 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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jenkosrugby said:
I know......Lets all have a debate on the merits and disadvantages of EV's.
that will never catch on - be like the time someone mentioned the weight of new cars, never heard of that again did we. Looser.

AmyRichardson

1,975 posts

71 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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That stuff on the front and back is camo, right?

Right?

jeremyh1

1,524 posts

156 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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This will be a lectric car better than all the other lectric cars and in a class of its own

Very few people would dislike it

Darnoc95

516 posts

59 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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EV or ICE they will both be fugly!

scenario8

7,946 posts

208 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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Weight inflation doesn’t interest me quite so much as price inflation. Currently Porsche will sell you a petrol Cayenne from £76k. It will be interesting to see where Cayenne EV prices begin.

(For reference base model Macan prices are ICE £54k, EV £67k. Debates may be had about power outputs and so on but that’s a fair uplift to go electric).

I suspect the EV Cayenne will be rather lovely, if you like that kind of thing. Just like the ICE versions.

Frogmella

353 posts

119 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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griffsomething said:
I wonder how long Porsche will keep selling the petrol Macan alongside the electric one as it’s ten years old now! Still a desirable car I’m sure, but getting on a bit!
Stateside the plan that was communicated to us was they would stop selling the petrol version this year to focus solely on EV.

ducnick

2,258 posts

272 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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Is it me, or does this one look to have a bigger boot than the current one? Less sloping rear window?

Gordon Hill

2,412 posts

44 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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It's f#cking ugly.

kmpowell

3,523 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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ducnick said:
Is it me, or does this one look to have a bigger boot than the current one? Less sloping rear window?
The same cars were first spotted back in April this year.

The 'big back' version is very likely to be the "K1", which is the all electric 7-seat SUV Porsche has said is coming.




Wheel Turned Out

2,368 posts

67 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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I'm sure it'll be very good, but also very heavy and very bloody expensive.

Water Fairy

6,591 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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AmyRichardson said:
That stuff on the front and back is camo, right?

Right?
My thoughts/hopes exactly

DoctorX

8,230 posts

196 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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Water Fairy said:
AmyRichardson said:
That stuff on the front and back is camo, right?

Right?
My thoughts/hopes exactly
It’s camo to draw the attention. Look new! If it was not camouflaged no one would give it a second glance.

kambites

71,470 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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scenario8 said:
(For reference base model Macan prices are ICE £54k, EV £67k. Debates may be had about power outputs and so on but that’s a fair uplift to go electric).
I guess at least some of that will be "new model uplift"; new models always cost more than the ones they replace (or in this case sit alongside). Of course that will also be true with the Cayenne. One has to imagine that the new model's price will start with a 9.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 25th July 18:21

nismo48

7,023 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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DoctorX said:
Water Fairy said:
AmyRichardson said:
That stuff on the front and back is camo, right?

Right?
My thoughts/hopes exactly
It’s camo to draw the attention. Look new! If it was not camouflaged no one would give it a second glance.
Maybe so as to soften the appearance before the Full Reveal scratchchin

bigyoungdave

330 posts

56 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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I can see why a petrol 911 or panamera is worth the extra money over an i30N, completely different and more enjoyable/memorable experience. But I can't fathom why you'd buy this overpriced EV heap over an ioniq 5N an EV6

Diderot

9,641 posts

221 months

Friday 26th July 2024
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fantheman80 said:
jenkosrugby said:
I know......Lets all have a debate on the merits and disadvantages of EV's.
that will never catch on - be like the time someone mentioned the weight of new cars, never heard of that again did we. Looser.
Looser than what?

wistec1

795 posts

70 months

Friday 26th July 2024
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What next diesel? Yes please and let's have this miscarriage of justice corrected as well. The more EV crashes and burns the more I gloat. My detractors will probably be along shortly resighting my hate for EV as some kind of human abnormality rather than my right to free opinion. It's just nice to know I'm renting some free space in their heads.

Blackpuddin

19,431 posts

234 months

Friday 26th July 2024
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The cash Porsche has spent and continues to spend on synthetic fuel development suggests they know which way the winds are blowing.