Registration plate supplied without V5 verification
Registration plate supplied without V5 verification
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gmaz

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4,934 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?

davek_964

10,335 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Plenty of places sell number plates for 'display' at car shows etc and 'not for road use'.

littleredrooster

5,990 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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If they describe them as 'Show Plates', they can do as they please. It's been happening since the regulations changed. Same applies if they have a convenient address outside of GB.

Sebring440

2,821 posts

113 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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gmaz said:
Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Seriously, have you got nothing more important to to be getting on with?


Pica-Pica

15,373 posts

101 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Sebring440 said:
gmaz said:
Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Seriously, have you got nothing more important to to be getting on with?
I think cloning is pretty serious.

KungFuPanda

4,532 posts

187 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Send it back for a refund on the basis that they didn’t follow the legal sales process if you’re not happy.

lancslad58

1,444 posts

25 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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gmaz said:
I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Read the news recently...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...



sunnyb13

1,125 posts

55 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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no-one cares these days. thousands of these places print plates without the need for a v5.

dingg

4,388 posts

236 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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Snitches get stitches

🤡

RGG

727 posts

34 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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For a number plate to be legal it has to be made by a Government Approved supplier.


From the government website -

"You can only get a number plate made up from a registered number plate supplier.

Not all suppliers sell all types of number plate."

https://www.gov.uk/number-plate-supplier

It will and must have the supplier info in small print on the plate to be be legal.

Check the plate and I think I know what you will see or not see.


Here's the DVLA info

Rules for number plates - check the 5th separated requirement

The number plates on your vehicle must:

be made from a reflective material
display black characters on a white background (front plate)
display black characters on a yellow background (rear plate)
not have a background pattern

be marked to show who supplied the number plate

be marked with a British Standard number - this is ‘BS AU 145e’ for plates fitted after 1 September 2021

surveyor

18,413 posts

201 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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They are a really good resource to get legal plates without faffing about.

The only thing the regs do is inconvenience the genuine. Anyone who wants hooky plates will be able to get them regardless of the daft regulations.

Jobbo

13,444 posts

281 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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gmaz said:
I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Send them back and ask for a refund because they shouldn't have supplied them.

Or be grateful that they didn't stick to the letter of the rules because if they had, they'd have required you to post your original V5C to them. Maybe bookmark the seller for future reference because they've made your life more convenient.

AdeTuono

7,574 posts

244 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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gmaz said:
I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
FFS...rolleyes



SteveKTMer

1,197 posts

48 months

Friday 16th August 2024
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If the company is based outside the UK, like IoM or Jersey, they can make whatever plates they like. Much more convenient than taking your documents in person to Halfords or wherever. And they still have the post code and BSAU number on them if you get a standard plate.

Simpo Two

89,486 posts

282 months

Saturday 17th August 2024
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lancslad58 said:
'In some cases this has led to registered owners facing fines or arrest '

Supplier fails to do checks, driver gets fined. Seems about normal. Fine the driver, now what was the question?

Red Devil

13,316 posts

225 months

Saturday 17th August 2024
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lancslad58 said:
gmaz said:
I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Read the news recently...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...
Are you saying that's recent news or it takes you nearly 6 years to catch up?

Cold

16,159 posts

107 months

Saturday 17th August 2024
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I wonder of the OP is going to turn himself in for obtaining and subsequently displaying illegally supplied number plates. I hope so, can't have this sort of villainy going unchecked.

PorkInsider

6,243 posts

158 months

Sunday 18th August 2024
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lancslad58 said:
gmaz said:
I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Read the news recently...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...
"Licence plates" ???

FFS BBC, we're not the 51st state yet.

Pica-Pica

15,373 posts

101 months

Sunday 18th August 2024
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PorkInsider said:
lancslad58 said:
gmaz said:
I recently bought a registration plate for my daughter's partner's transit van. from Amazon. After purchasing i expected them to request a scan of the V5 to verify I was the owner, but a request never arrived and the plate came within 3 days with all the legal markings. Now the address on the V5 matches one of my delivery address options on Amazon, but not the name or address it was delivered to.

Isn't this illegal to supply a plate without verification of ownership? Should they be reported as it is a way to get cloned plates?
Read the news recently...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...
"Licence plates" ???

FFS BBC, we're not the 51st state yet.
Don’t. I am fed up contacting the BBC about their poor grammar, ignorance, or just lack of proof-reading.

Dog Star

17,038 posts

185 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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surveyor said:
They are a really good resource to get legal plates without faffing about.

The only thing the regs do is inconvenience the genuine. Anyone who wants hooky plates will be able to get them regardless of the daft regulations.
This.

I buy my plates from Jersey, where the silly V5 law doesn’t apply. I believe it also doesn’t apply in Scotland but may be wrong. Mine are totally legal - the postcode on them is a Jersey postcode.

My in-laws own a big haulage firm - they just knock their own up.

It’s a stupid law, so I’ll do anything to circumvent it (it’s also generally cheaper and saves me a drive). If the government wants to do something about cloned plates etc then it should do what many other countries do - have a government body do them, and only that body.