18 year old's driving licence expires on 70th birthday?
18 year old's driving licence expires on 70th birthday?
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Dashnine

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1,643 posts

71 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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My son had an alarming experince when using his DL for ID for his age the other day, having just turned 18.

Bouncers at a bar/club almost confiscated his DL as a fake as the expiry date (line 4b) was the day before his 70th birthday (i.e. xx July 2076) instead of, as they said, 10 years after the issue date (which would be 2034 I assume, 10 years after he passed his test).

From what I can see on my own licence and others - and after a quick Google, they're right - it shouldn't be expiring at his 70th birthday (well, the day before).

Is this a DVLA error, or is something else afoot?



Edited by Dashnine on Monday 19th August 14:29

TheDrownedApe

1,560 posts

77 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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on the front??? Clearly all of mine are day before 70th birthday on the back but 10 years on the front

andrebar

516 posts

143 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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Mistake I reckon. My son received his licence a few days ago & the front definitely showed expiry in 10 years

Colonel Cupcake

1,319 posts

66 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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I understand that the photo expires in 10 years but the licence itself expires on your 70th birthday.

Getragdogleg

9,772 posts

204 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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Just a note, a bouncer cannot confiscate or destroy anything, if they do you can report it to the police and they should do something about it.

They can refuse entry, that's it.

MustangGT

13,614 posts

301 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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Dashnine said:
My son had an alarming experince when using his DL for ID for his age the other day, having just turned 18.

Bouncers at a bar/club almost confiscated his DL as a fake as the expiry date (line 4b) was the day before his 70th birthday (i.e. xx July 2076) instead of, as they said, 10 years after the issue date (which would be 2034 I assume, 10 years after he passed his test).

From what I can see on my own licence and others - and after a quick Google, they're right - it shouldn't be expiring at his 70th birthday (well, the day before).

Is this a DVLA error, or is something else afoot?



Edited by Dashnine on Monday 19th August 14:29
It is simple, the photo expires in 10 years, the driving licence entitlements expire on your 70th birthday (for cars/bikes). You need to renew the photo each time the photo expires.

alscar

7,713 posts

234 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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The year on 4b should be 10 years after the year on 4a with then on the back the actual expiry date of the licence when 70.

Dashnine

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1,643 posts

71 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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MustangGT said:
It is simple, the photo expires in 10 years, the driving licence entitlements expire on your 70th birthday (for cars/bikes). You need to renew the photo each time the photo expires.
Well, it should be be simple I agree but the 4b date (on the front of the card) is the day before his 70th birthday matching the dates on the rear of the card.

So not so simple.

alscar

7,713 posts

234 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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Dashnine said:
Well, it should be be simple I agree but the 4b date (on the front of the card) is the day before his 70th birthday matching the dates on the rear of the card.

So not so simple.
Does sound like an error then albeit quite an unusual one ?!

MustangGT

13,614 posts

301 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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alscar said:
Dashnine said:
Well, it should be be simple I agree but the 4b date (on the front of the card) is the day before his 70th birthday matching the dates on the rear of the card.

So not so simple.
Does sound like an error then albeit quite an unusual one ?!
Agreed, admin error by DVLA, how unusual...

I also note it is the day before your 70th, not your 70th.

TwigtheWonderkid

47,680 posts

171 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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I remember getting my licence in 1979 and seeing it expired in 2032, and laughing about how ridiculously far away that was. Bloody hell, it's only 8 years away now weeping

T6 vanman

3,377 posts

120 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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[quote=TwigtheWonder kid ]I remember getting my licence in 1979 and seeing it expired in 2032, and laughing about how ridiculously far away that was. Bloody hell, it's only 8 years away now weeping
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Sebring440

3,011 posts

117 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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T6 vanman said:
[quote=TwigtheWonder kid ]I remember getting my licence in 1979 and seeing it expired in 2032, and laughing about how ridiculously far away that was. Bloody hell, it's only 8 years away now weeping
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Hey, great post.


pingu393

10,154 posts

226 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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Dashnine said:
My son had an alarming experince when using his DL for ID for his age the other day, having just turned 18.

Bouncers at a bar/club almost confiscated his DL as a fake as the expiry date (line 4b) was the day before his 70th birthday (i.e. xx July 2076) instead of, as they said, 10 years after the issue date (which would be 2034 I assume, 10 years after he passed his test).

From what I can see on my own licence and others - and after a quick Google, they're right - it shouldn't be expiring at his 70th birthday (well, the day before).

Is this a DVLA error, or is something else afoot?



Edited by Dashnine on Monday 19th August 14:29
He can go all the way to his 70th birthday without having to change the picture. laugh

I'd get some evidence that the licence is correct, as I think that it could be problematic in the distant future. DVLA's records probably say that his licence expires in 10 years, even though his licence doesn't say that.

Cliftonite

8,659 posts

159 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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Is a driving licence with a fault potentially worth a fortune, as is a postage stamp or a coin?!

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anyoldcardave

1,081 posts

88 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I remember getting my licence in 1979 and seeing it expired in 2032, and laughing about how ridiculously far away that was. Bloody hell, it's only 8 years away now weeping
I passed the test in 79 too, so just checked mine, and it is 2031, now I feel very old biglaugh

I also noticed the front date expired a couple of weeks ago, and HGV/PSV expires next month too, best get that sorted, wonder if I will get 5 years this time, or just until I am 65. The joys of age lol.

Wacky Racer

40,423 posts

268 months

Monday 19th August 2024
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I passed my test in 1969 and it expired last year.

Had to renew it smile

Roofless Toothless

6,968 posts

153 months

Tuesday 20th August 2024
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I clearly remember one day in the previous century (no mean feat) puzzling about a meaningless string of numbers on my driving licence that ended with 2019. Then I realised it was my 70th birthday.

alscar

7,713 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th August 2024
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anyoldcardave said:
I passed the test in 79 too, so just checked mine, and it is 2031, now I feel very old biglaugh

I also noticed the front date expired a couple of weeks ago, and HGV/PSV expires next month too, best get that sorted, wonder if I will get 5 years this time, or just until I am 65. The joys of age lol.
I assume your new photocard will run until 2031 and not 10 years ?
Out of interest as your card has now expired does that make it " illegal " to drive and hence any insurance should the worst happen be declared invalid ?

Cat

3,130 posts

290 months

Tuesday 20th August 2024
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alscar said:
Out of interest as your card has now expired does that make it " illegal " to drive and hence any insurance should the worst happen be declared invalid ?
No.

Cat