House sale and gifting money to a child
House sale and gifting money to a child
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Consigliere

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395 posts

65 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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Hypothetical question.

My partner and I, our house is worth approx £500k. All children now living elsewhere with their families, only one adult child living at home - house is bigger than our needs.

Plan is to sell property and buy a bungalow, probably around £400k. Could i give the remaining money, approx £100k to my child who lives with me for them to buy their own property - its likely they will have to take out a mortgage, so i guess its a deposit from my partner and I to our child.

Any tax implications or issues with doing this?

markiii

4,221 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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so long as you survive 7 years then no issues

wrencho

343 posts

89 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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I don't think so providing you don't cark it within 7 years. The amount will need to be declared by the borrower to the Lender, who will probably expect a letter from you confirming that the amount is a gift rather than a loan...

child may want a deed of trust relating to the 100k if they are buying with a significant other (or with any future significant other) to protect it in the event the relationship ends...

psi310398

10,696 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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It might also be worth the beneficiary taking out inheritance tax insurance to cover the seven years of potential exposure. As the exposure tapers, it should become progressively cheaper.

Cheib

25,129 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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psi310398 said:
It might also be worth the beneficiary taking out inheritance tax insurance to cover the seven years of potential exposure. As the exposure tapers, it should become progressively cheaper.
The beneficiary wouldn’t be subject to IHT it would be the OP’s estate ?

psi310398

10,696 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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Cheib said:
The beneficiary wouldn’t be subject to IHT it would be the OP’s estate ?
Yes, but generally the sum needs to be found sharpiish to pay any IHT owing.

Terminator X

19,704 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th August 2024
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If you had a £100k deposit though why is it anyone else's business? Surely the mortgage company doesn't care as long as the loan to value works.

Extreme event - the OP could give the child £100k cash and they could use that to pay the first 10 years of payments etc.

TX.

C69

1,128 posts

36 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Terminator X said:
If you had a £100k deposit though why is it anyone else's business? Surely the mortgage company doesn't care as long as the loan to value works.

Extreme event - the OP could give the child £100k cash and they could use that to pay the first 10 years of payments etc.

TX.
Money laundering regulations and anti-fraud measures mean that the source of the £100k would have to be proved.

OP, this might be useful: https://www.samconveyancing.co.uk/news/conveyancin...

BlackTails

2,861 posts

79 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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markiii said:
so long as you survive 7 years then no issues
Surely only relevant if the OP’s estate is over the IHT threshold when he dies.

JQ

6,602 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Slightly off topic, but did each of the other children get £100,000 towards their first homes?

BlackTails

2,861 posts

79 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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JQ said:
Slightly off topic, but did each of the other children get £100,000 towards their first homes?
Intrusive and irrelevant.

Sheets Tabuer

21,053 posts

239 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Family member recently did this, three things you must keep in mind.

If you are above the IHT threshold and you die within 7 years of the gift then there is tax payable on a sliding scale.
They must prove to the bank where the money came from.
You must write a letter to the lender saying you have no financial interest in the house, the money was a gift, you will not live there and you don't ever want the money back.

JQ

6,602 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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BlackTails said:
JQ said:
Slightly off topic, but did each of the other children get £100,000 towards their first homes?
Intrusive and irrelevant.
Not at all, gifting money in unequal amounts late in life can cause significant family rifts.

The OP doesn’t need to answer my question, but I do hope they’ve discussed the gift with all the siblings.


Alex Z

1,974 posts

100 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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BlackTails said:
JQ said:
Slightly off topic, but did each of the other children get £100,000 towards their first homes?
Intrusive and irrelevant.
Indeed. One is a question about the financial implications of a gift. The other is about who the parent chooses to make a gift to, and nothing to do with anyone else.

Richonenope

30 posts

63 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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If there is an IHT issue the Nil rate band would be used first - so the donors nil rate band would reduce by £100,000 to £225,000, until the gift drops out of the reckoning in seven years time. There is no tapering of relief for IHT as the gift is within the available nil rate band.

You could make it a joint gift and use your £3000 gift allowances x2 and if you haven’t used the previous years allowance carry this forward too, knocking £12,000 off the gift.

Consigliere

Original Poster:

395 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Richonenope said:
If there is an IHT issue the Nil rate band would be used first - so the donors nil rate band would reduce by £100,000 to £225,000, until the gift drops out of the reckoning in seven years time. There is no tapering of relief for IHT as the gift is within the available nil rate band.

You could make it a joint gift and use your £3000 gift allowances x2 and if you haven’t used the previous years allowance carry this forward too, knocking £12,000 off the gift.
Would it be more beneficial for me to give £50k, and for my partner to give £50k (total £100k) - rather than one of us, my self or my partner, give the full £100k.

TownIdiot

3,527 posts

23 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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are you and your partner married to each other?

oddman

3,902 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Alex Z said:
BlackTails said:
JQ said:
Slightly off topic, but did each of the other children get £100,000 towards their first homes?
Intrusive and irrelevant.
Indeed. One is a question about the financial implications of a gift. The other is about who the parent chooses to make a gift to, and nothing to do with anyone else.
Some readers, with financial expertise with be able to address the technical aspects of the question. There will probably other readers, with professional expertise and life experience of family financial/relationship woes for whom the OP's question might trigger alarm bells. I'd probably put it less tactlessly than JQ but might ask if the OP is keeping the other children in the loop and what their feelings are. Not in expectation of a reply but just expressing friendly caution.

alscar

8,284 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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psi310398 said:
Cheib said:
The beneficiary wouldn’t be subject to IHT it would be the OP’s estate ?
Yes, but generally the sum needs to be found sharpiish to pay any IHT owing.
Presumably inheritance tax insurance is “ just “ whole of life insurance and therefore at the point of taking out the policy is pretty expensive ?

alscar

8,284 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th August 2024
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Terminator X said:
If you had a £100k deposit though why is it anyone else's business? Surely the mortgage company doesn't care as long as the loan to value works.


TX.
Having done something similar for my children in terms of a house deposit it is very much a question that the mortgage company will ask.
My eldest got a mortgage with Nationwide who sent me a form to complete as did his Solicitor.
As already posted I had to declare no interest in the house , not a loan , just an unencumbered gift and where the money was coming from.