RE: Should you pay £29k for a 1998 Nissan Sunny?
RE: Should you pay £29k for a 1998 Nissan Sunny?
Thursday 29th August 2024

Should you pay £29k for a 1998 Nissan Sunny?

Labour is back in power and Oasis are reforming - just how deep into '90s nostalgia are you prepared to go?


Group A rallying may have felt a step down from the fire-breathing Group B monsters of the '80s, but it doubtlessly spawned some mighty road-going specials. With the ruleset requiring teams to run cars closely linked to their civilian counterparts, manufacturers spent millions developing machines that could win in the WRC before toning them down ever so slightly for us lot to muck about in. Without it, we’d never have had all-wheel drive greats like the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo, Subaru Impreza WRX and Lancia Delta HF Integrale.

Of course, those are the ones that took home the most silverware during Group A's golden era in the '90s, but for every championship winner there is a whole heap of homologation specials that never cut the mustard. For instance, the Escort RS Cosworth may be one of the great fast Fords even if it only managed a handful of wins in the WRC. On the more obscure side of things, Mazda created a barmy version of the 323 with well over 200hp on tap, while Volkswagen made its Mk2 hatch even boxier with the Rallye Golf. Both were a bit rubbish at rallying, but otherwise made immensely cool homologation specials that collectors would bite your arm off to own.

However, as cool-yet-unsuccessful rally hatches go, few hold a candle to the Nissan Pulsar GTI-R. Dubbed the Sunny in Britain, the GTI-R was a radical transformation of Nissan's woefully boring family hatchback for an assault on the WRC in '91. Chief among the upgrades was a 2.0-litre turbo engine developing 230hp, sending it along with 210lb-ft of torque across both axles via a five-speed manual gearbox. It’s said that a 0-62mph sprint could be achieved in just 5.5 seconds, which is almost identical performance to the 30 years newer Toyota GR Yaris.

Impressive performance for a Sunny, so little wonder Nissan wanted to make a song and dance about it. The GTI-R is famous for its outlandish body kit, comprising chunkier bumpers, a massive boot spoiler and a non-ironic bonnet bulge thanks to the positioning of the intercooler directly above the rally-prepped engine. And while interior tweaks were kept on the light side, the dials feature the GTI-R graphic and there are high-bolstered sports seats to stop you flailing around while charging down a tarmac stage.

If that’s not an invitation to hoon, I don’t know what is. And hoon is what many, many GTI-R owners tend to do in their homologation special, with some spending thousands on premium Japanese aftermarket upgrades to extract even sillier amounts of power. Nissan made nearly 15,000 of them, including those branded Sunny here in the UK, though finding one these days is incredibly difficult, let alone one that hasn’t been tuned to within an inch of its life. That makes this JDM-spec GTI-R a bit of a unicorn, remaining in completely stock condition over the last 26 years and 42,000 miles.

Every inch looks immaculate, with no reported scuffs or faded paintwork, while the engine bay looks as fresh as the day it left the factory. It even comes fitted with some rare factory extras, such as a tri gauge cluster in the centre console and a very '90s passive radiator speaker (or DDPR in Nissan speak) in the parcel shelf. A suburb example of a cult rally hero, and as such there’s a mighty sizeable asking price. The seller’s looking for £28,995, and while GTI-Rs don’t come cheap, they can certainly be had for less than this. But this isn’t any old GTI-R, it’s as close to a box-fresh example as we may ever see and would be a fantastic addition to any rally fan’s collection. So what’ll it be: this, or a lightly used GR Yaris?


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Gibbler290

Original Poster:

718 posts

124 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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No you shouldn’t

C5_Steve

8,870 posts

132 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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No.

They really weren't that great standard, which is why so many were modified. Even then, they were woefully unreliable. The gearbox in particular was made of chocolate, so good luck attempting that 0-60 time without having a spare in the garage.

This one has been off the road since 2020 according to it's lack of MOT so it's almost certainly going to need work if you want to drive it anywhere.

Yes, it's almost a unicorn in this condition but this is one of those occasions when you really want one that's been breathed on to actually enjoy it.

Fuzzarr

323 posts

140 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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These things are crazy! Not really caught on like other Japanese cars though.

I used to have a 1988 N13 Sunny, E reg, loved it! I'd love to buy another but they've all dissolved.

daqinggregg

5,335 posts

158 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Why not if it tickles your fancy, if you lusted after one as a youngster and now have the money to realise the dream, pull the trigger.

Purchases, like this are not based on the ability of the purchase, but more about the memories/feeling they evoke. Why would you want a Ferrari 246 GTS, a Fiesta ST is quicker.

Dombilano

1,440 posts

84 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Yes, if it was 4200 miles and box fresh. 42k miles is pushing it a bit.


James Junior

856 posts

186 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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daqinggregg said:
Why not if it tickles your fancy, if you lusted after one as a youngster and now have the money to realise the dream, pull the trigger.

Purchases, like this are not based on the ability of the purchase, but more about the memories/feeling they evoke. Why would you want a Ferrari 246 GTS, a Fiesta ST is quicker.
Well said.

cerb4.5lee

44,555 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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I always liked these back in the day. Plus I remember a highly tuned one leaving me for dead when I had the mildly tuned S14a 200SX. We were rolling side by side, and we both booted it, and he left me standing!

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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If you can afford it and like it enough, sure I guess? I'll pass myself, though!

fantheman80

2,604 posts

78 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Growing up my holy trinity was the Escort Cosworth, the Lancia Delta Integrale and the Sunny Gti-R pulsar....its comedy small wheels and box shape couldn't put me off the mental bonnet vent and the brisk 0-60. If my numbers came up it would be a Yes to the original question, followed by a visit to a tuner

Edited by fantheman80 on Thursday 29th August 14:34

Retro.74

322 posts

52 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Can remember been taken for a drive in one of these many years ago, so disappointing, engine sounded pretty rough, didn't feel quick, overall a big let down as was expecting it to be a bit of a pocket rocket.
I gather tuned ones were a different animal tho but as said gearboxes will struggle.
Wheels are tiny as well , I think they are 14's, and even back then they looked too small.

Edited by Retro.74 on Thursday 29th August 14:43

Earl of Petrol

552 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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There’s a question that you never thought would need answering….

Earl of Petrol

552 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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There’s a question that you never thought would need answering….

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

186 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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James Junior said:
daqinggregg said:
Why not if it tickles your fancy, if you lusted after one as a youngster and now have the money to realise the dream, pull the trigger.

Purchases, like this are not based on the ability of the purchase, but more about the memories/feeling they evoke. Why would you want a Ferrari 246 GTS, a Fiesta ST is quicker.
Well said.
Basically how I see it. It's one for the person who wanted it as a teen an now has the cash

cerb4.5lee

44,555 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Retro.74 said:
Can remember been taken for a drive in one of these many years ago, so disappointing, engine sounded pretty rough, didn't feel quick, overall a big let down as was expecting it to be a bit of a pocket rocket.
I gather tuned ones were a different animal tho but as said gearboxes will struggle.
Wheels are tiny as well , I think they are 14's, and even back then they looked too small.

Edited by Retro.74 on Thursday 29th August 14:43
My 200SX only had a 50bhp uplift over standard, but it totally transformed the car/engine though I thought. The SR20DET engine really benefits from being fettled with I reckon. It feels a very ordinary engine in standard guise for me.

Agreed about the wheels too, just too small.

DanielSan

20,006 posts

196 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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You always needed to really really like these to ignore the Impreza and Evo back in the day. You need to like it even more now at this money

Robertb

3,846 posts

267 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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No. I didnt lust after one as a youngster and I certainly don't want one now.

cerb4.5lee

44,555 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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DanielSan said:
You always needed to really really like these to ignore the Impreza and Evo back in the day. You need to like it even more now at this money
I'd agree with that too. I like them don't get me wrong, but they look properly ordinary, and being unkind, you might even say that they're ugly as well I reckon.

anyoldcardave

1,081 posts

96 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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Dombilano said:
Yes, if it was 4200 miles and box fresh. 42k miles is pushing it a bit.
42K over 25 years ?

Hardly high is it, 4200. and it would be barely used, quite likely with a lot of hidden issues that would manifest if you used it.

Like a deisel, prefer one that has been used as intended somewhat.

gotoPzero

20,701 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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L is 1994 isnt it?

AlexGSi2000

800 posts

223 months

Thursday 29th August 2024
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I remember changing the clutch on one of these for a mate - that was a job and a half.

It needed a clutch as it was stolen two years prior... no sight or sound of it until my mate drove past it and thought "I used to have one of those"... for it to actually be his, albeit with the badges and spoiler removed.
He had to steal it back, but promptly found the clutch was knacked.

I only drove it briefly after I did the clutch, remember it feeling very analogue, when the boost hit it felt quick!