Guy Ritchie's Revolver
Discussion
JagLover said:
I've read dire reviews too, and I don't reaaly like the whole British gangsta genre in any case.
Pleeeaaasssee tell me you havn't seen Layer Cake and can still say this.
Each to their own of course, but I thought it was a superb film.
edited coz I have a shocking hangover and cannot spool for carp.
>> Edited by Mastiff on Thursday 22 September 10:09
I have not seen this yet. I was going to give Guy another chance after the disaster that was "Swept Away", but after reading the reviews for Revolver I don't think I'll bother.
I may be being a bit uncharitable but Guy's film making seems to have taken a bit of a dive since his pairing with "Madge". She does seem to be a "kiss of death", Shanghai Surprise anyone?
I may be being a bit uncharitable but Guy's film making seems to have taken a bit of a dive since his pairing with "Madge". She does seem to be a "kiss of death", Shanghai Surprise anyone?
Chim450 said:
I may be being a bit uncharitable but Guy's film making seems to have taken a bit of a dive since his pairing with "Madge". She does seem to be a "kiss of death", Shanghai Surprise anyone?
Anyone else think all her Kabbala (spelling?) nonsense has something to do with his decline?
Shame it if is....I thought Lock Stock & Snatch were top films! Still willing to give Revolver a go however, and make my own mind up. I usually find film critics are too far up their own backsides, anyway.
Looks like the sort of thing I'd rent from Blockbuster in a year or so's time so I can potentially laugh at it over a beer, but I'm having second thoughts about going to see it at the cinema. Apparently, critics say the worst thing about it is that Guy Ritchie's attempted to muscle in on classic Scorsese territory.
I'll watch it, probably, but I'm not expecting miracles.
I'll watch it, probably, but I'm not expecting miracles.
There are times when I take the reviewers views with a pinch of salt, particularly when it is a big dumb action movie, which I know I will enjoy anyway.
You just have to know where they are coming from; with the Telegraph they have had the same reviewers for years so I know their viewpoint.
You just have to know where they are coming from; with the Telegraph they have had the same reviewers for years so I know their viewpoint.
Evening Standard said:
Dear Guy Ritchie, I'm sure you're a nice man, or Madonna wouldn't have married you. But I'm equally sure she has cause to be grateful that you didn't, after all, cast her in Revolver as you did in Swept Away, since this new one makes your last look like a classic. There must be worse movies to be seen in London just now, but, to be frank, I can't actually think of any. What on earth went wrong?
I'll tell you what I think. I think you decided to do something in the way of a gangster movie that was a bit more weighty than Lock, Stock and Snatch, and accordingly sat down and perused such films as The Usual Suspects and Mr Tarantino's oeuvre, perhaps even some of Luc Besson's.
Then you took this story about a petty conman and crook (casting Jason Statham) who seeks revenge upon a much bigger mobster (Ray Liotta, resplendent, at least, in jockey briefs), and jazzed it up with décor that looks like it came straight from Las Vegas via the court of Louis the Sun King along with dialogue of a philosophical bent that would give the leading philosophers of his day severe indigestion.
You also decided, probably in the cutting room, to keep every little thing you shot, so that the film seems very much longer than the almost two hours that it runs. Am I right?
If there is a message in this at times almost incomprehensible tale, which goes backwards and forwards in time like a particularly confusing nightmare, it is that Mr Statham's conman is fighting himself as much as the stagy thugs who surround him with evil intent.
As the film says, your enemy will always hide in the last place that you would ever look - in your own head. I have to tell you that my own head was splitting by the time Revolver ended and I limped out into Leicester Square.
Could it be that you are playing a dastardly trick on us all? That Revolver is an elaborate joke? Or have you really just shot yourself painfully in the foot? If the latter, I do hope that you recover soon. I'm not sure that I will. Love to Madge.
I don't think he liked it, do you?
when i was a youth i used to work in a video rental place. on many occasions a couple of mates would come in to choose a film. one would pick one out , to bring it to the counter and the other would say something like" i've seen that its crap." the mate would then put it back and choose another. what happened to making your own mind up? it was a regular occurance.
similar thing with reviewers, i think, its a couple of hours and any film might have some redeeming features. having said that richie is reported as saying that "you need to be intelligent to understand his film," i find myself excused
similar thing with reviewers, i think, its a couple of hours and any film might have some redeeming features. having said that richie is reported as saying that "you need to be intelligent to understand his film," i find myself excused
i went to see it yesterday, i thought it was pretty good, but bloody rediculous to understand how things were done and what was going on. oh and i didnt really know what time frame it was set in as it didnt seem like modern times, as all the cars were old 80's types. and also i thought it was set somewhere in america but not exactly sure where.
just thinking about the end and it did seem very weird
just thinking about the end and it did seem very weird
polarbert said:
i went to see it yesterday, i thought it was pretty good, but bloody rediculous to understand how things were done and what was going on. oh and i didnt really know what time frame it was set in as it didnt seem like modern times, as all the cars were old 80's types. and also i thought it was set somewhere in america but not exactly sure where.
just thinking about the end and it did seem very weird
I've heard that it all falls into place the second time you see it and it's actually quite clever
My wife works at the Cinema (wages), and she has said that people coming out have been disappointed!
I have to admit that I was looking forward to Layer Cake, only to realise that it played almost the same as Carlitto's Way (I even deduced within 20 mins of watching the film how it was going to end!) It was good, but it certainly wasn't Good Fellas. The US take on gangsters, like Casino, LA Confidential, Scareface, Once Upon A Time In America and, of course, the best, Good Fellas, tell the story with real Oomph, and are always quality, the British gangster films however, look more like a TV drama series, just a tad grittier.
I have to admit that I was looking forward to Layer Cake, only to realise that it played almost the same as Carlitto's Way (I even deduced within 20 mins of watching the film how it was going to end!) It was good, but it certainly wasn't Good Fellas. The US take on gangsters, like Casino, LA Confidential, Scareface, Once Upon A Time In America and, of course, the best, Good Fellas, tell the story with real Oomph, and are always quality, the British gangster films however, look more like a TV drama series, just a tad grittier.
dick dastardly said:
i went to see it yesterday, i thought it was pretty good, but bloody rediculous to understand how things were done and what was going on. oh and i didnt really know what time frame it was set in as it didnt seem like modern times, as all the cars were old 80's types. and also i thought it was set somewhere in america but not exactly sure where.
just thinking about the end and it did seem very weird
I've heard that it all falls into place the second time you see it and it's actually quite clever
ah right, i just couldnt work out how jason statham was making money out of the 3 eddies, or why they would want to give him money.
also i couldnt work out what was going on with mr gold
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