RE: Lotus previews new Theory 1 concept
RE: Lotus previews new Theory 1 concept
Wednesday 11th September 2024

Lotus previews new Theory 1 concept

Sneak peek ahead of full reveal next week - is this the electric Elise?


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Those of you with good memories might remember that Lotus announced a grand plan just about three years ago. On August 31st, 2021, it said four new EVs would be coming before the end of 2026; perhaps understandably, there was some scepticism around the plan. But look where we are a couple of years from the deadline, with both Type 132 - the Eletre - and the Emeya (once known as the Type 133) on sale. And having garnered some good reviews, too. Now it’s time for the fun stuff. 

Type 134 is still to follow, which will be the Macan-sized SUV. Type 135, however, is the electric sports car, once to be co-developed with Alpine and then with that agreement being torn up and Lotus going it alone. Today it has previewed something that’s coming next week (September 17th) called the Theory 1; it’ll likely be more styling preview than a vehicle displaying production intent, but it’s surely got to be pointing towards that EV sports car. Even newly reinvented Lotus can’t debut an SUV, then saloon, then another SUV.

Naturally, the preview doesn’t show much, with a rear view hinting at a super slim light bar and an interior with a wheel straight from a Vision Gran Turismo sports car. But even without giving much away, what can be seen is much more overtly sporting than cars like the Emeya and Eletre. Plus there’s the bumf around it, Lotus suggesting that ‘it’s all led to this’, supported by arty footage of old F1 cars. That wouldn’t be for a D-segment SUV. #TheLotusTheory is the hashtag - expect to hear a lot more of it in the coming weeks. 

Details are extremely thin on the ground, of course. If the Theory 1 does preview an electric sports car, that won’t be seen for a couple of years yet, as the Emira enjoys its time in the limelight. We’re looking at 2027 for the actual thing, by which time Alpine’s take on the battery powered A110 and the electric Porsche 718s will also be on sale. Which would certainly be an interesting twist on the familiar triple test. 


 

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sidesauce

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Thursday 12th September 2024
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Hmmm.

Motormouth88

622 posts

76 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.

Scoobysaurus

305 posts

113 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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“Analogue” - a big claim to make, I guess we’ll see what it might mean soon

dunnoreally

1,308 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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I bet they still call it the Elise but it's a rival for that new electric Humvee. And they introduce it in a black and gold paintjob accompanied by footage of Colin Chapman racing in an old 7.

Justin-ow582

470 posts

121 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
Lancia?

sidesauce

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2,916 posts

234 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
TVR. Rover. Anything under British Leyland to be fair.

At least Lotus still exists.

Motormouth88

622 posts

76 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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sidesauce said:
Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
TVR. Rover. Anything under British Leyland to be fair.

At least Lotus still exists.
At least TVR went out with a bang and the last car they made was the Sagaris, not these lardy fridges

spikyone

1,762 posts

116 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
Ford. A range of decent looking family cars lauded for their sweet handling 20 years ago; a range of bland SUVs and - worse - bloated EV SUVs being marketed off the back of sporty names today.

At least Lotus have the Emira.

redroadster

1,870 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Mg has it covered with there new roadster.

kibbbs

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214 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Unfortunately I imagine those of us that experienced the Emira debacle of continuous delays and broken promises on pricing and eventually just gave up and cancelled won’t be signing up for a repeat performance no matter how good the car is.

gruppeb86

596 posts

29 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
Maybe the theory is they'll bounce back!

BertBert

20,411 posts

227 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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kibbbs said:
Unfortunately I imagine those of us that experienced the Emira debacle of continuous delays and broken promises on pricing and eventually just gave up and cancelled won’t be signing up for a repeat performance no matter how good the car is.
The pain is real! This new thing is an exciting prospect, but it'll be eye-wateringly expensive as a premium electric sports car. £100k plus is my guess

mikEsprit

849 posts

202 months

Thursday 12th September 2024
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"Sneak peek ahead of full reveal next week - is this the electric Elise?"

A headline that literally could have occurred in July 2006.


Steve12NG

298 posts

168 months

Friday 13th September 2024
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kibbbs said:
Unfortunately I imagine those of us that experienced the Emira debacle of continuous delays and broken promises on pricing and eventually just gave up and cancelled won’t be signing up for a repeat performance no matter how good the car is.
You are quite right re Lotus’ (non existent) communication with customers. It’s genuinely pathetic.

However, the car itself is superb and memories of the long wait fade quickly enough.

As far as producing yawn inducing lardy SUVs alongside the sports cars, which car company doesn’t do that these days?
I can only think of McLaren (or do they have one too?)

pycraft

1,122 posts

200 months

Friday 13th September 2024
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sidesauce said:
Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
TVR. Rover. Anything under British Leyland to be fair.

At least Lotus still exists.
At the moment I'm suffering from - sorry, I meant renting - an MG GT. A car defined by two pairs of two letters, neither of which it deserves.

DonkeyApple

63,340 posts

185 months

Friday 13th September 2024
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kibbbs said:
Unfortunately I imagine those of us that experienced the Emira debacle of continuous delays and broken promises on pricing and eventually just gave up and cancelled won’t be signing up for a repeat performance no matter how good the car is.
This car won't involve those folks over in Norfolkshire so it'll probably just be sold and delivered like a car in the 21st century.

Just not convinced electric sports cars will be remotely viable as actual sports cars for many years yet until energy density inefficiencies are significantly improved. But they'll work perfectly for all the users who just like the shape but don't actually use the 'sporting' ability.

Lotus will be receiving vast levels of the usual grave spinning horror from the people of Britishlandshire but those people weren't even the most important client base a decade ago and today they're not even on the radar as potential clients and arguably having them enraged about the new products is possibly better for business than having them in approval.

Quickmoose

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139 months

Friday 13th September 2024
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DonkeyApple said:
This car won't involve those folks over in Norfolkshire so it'll probably just be sold and delivered like a car in the 21st century.

Just not convinced electric sports cars will be remotely viable as actual sports cars for many years yet until energy density inefficiencies are significantly improved. But they'll work perfectly for all the users who just like the shape but don't actually use the 'sporting' ability.

Lotus will be receiving vast levels of the usual grave spinning horror from the people of Britishlandshire but those people weren't even the most important client base a decade ago and today they're not even on the radar as potential clients and arguably having them enraged about the new products is possibly better for business than having them in approval.
That's one of the saddest posts I've read in a while.... but one I find myself nodding in agreement with.... and I'm totally one of the grave spinners....urgh....

DonkeyApple

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Friday 13th September 2024
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Quickmoose said:
That's one of the saddest posts I've read in a while.... but one I find myself nodding in agreement with.... and I'm totally one of the grave spinners....urgh....
It is remarkably depressing but brands must evolve with the evolution of the customer base.

The solace comes from Lotus finally ending their twenty year long hardcore business plan of not selling any cars and promoting product values that were of zero relevance to the market.

They should have built a lightweight 2wd crossover decades ago when that was possible and would have been ground breaking but their decision to start selling cars came too late and now they can only really go the EV route heading forward

hurstg01

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259 months

Friday 13th September 2024
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Hope its got a 'don't immediately turn right if you're caning it off the start line' button....

malaccamax

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Friday 13th September 2024
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Motormouth88 said:
Tricky for me to think of another brand that, for me at least, has fallen from grace harder than Lotus.
Oh GOD not this old nonsense again. The company exists in 2024 making sports cars. What more do you need???
I think many here would prefer it died so you could swoon about Elises and Elans and Esprits and just live in the fecking past.