RE: Mazda MX-5 (ND) BBR turbo | Spotted
RE: Mazda MX-5 (ND) BBR turbo | Spotted
Monday 16th September 2024

Mazda MX-5 (ND) BBR turbo | Spotted

Pound-for-pound, and with everyday use in mind, this is probably as fun as cars will ever get


Nobody needs reminding by now, surely, of how appealing a BBR’d Mazda MX-5 is. Whether a customer sticks with natural aspiration or goes for forced induction, sets the car up for track or keeps a more road bias, goes the whole hog or just upgrades modestly, they’re going to make a great car even better. There aren’t many guarantees in modifying, given the subjectivity involved. But BBR making brilliant MX-5s is one of them. 

Brilliance doesn’t come cheap though, and with new cars from Mazda more expensive than ever it becomes much harder to justify the additional outlay on tuning. And while new customers may not be the first in line for a handling kit or turbocharger or bigger brakes, pricier new cars means costlier secondhand ones as well, so those further down the line might be less inclined to do the work also. Ideally, of course, you want to buy a BBR’d MX-5 after somebody else has spent the money, because then you get all the good stuff for a chunk less cash. But that doesn’t happen often, because it’s dependent on that outlay happening in the first place. And then that person wanting to sell a fantastic little MX-5. 

You get lucky on occasion, however, and here’s the car to prove it. This 2015 ND is for sale at a dealer that has one of those picture slides that mentions the amount spent on optional extras; usually it’s a few hundred quid on paint, maybe wheels and leather. Here it’s £11,200 of accessories, comprising all the good stuff from BBR: 250hp turbo upgrade, BBR exhaust, Wilwood brakes, lowering springs, Whiteline handling kit, even a redone steering wheel to permit additional legroom for taller drivers. All that stuff raved about when fitted to the current generation of MX-5 is here. 

It’s going to make for a superb sports car then, with almost 100hp more than standard (and a whole load more torque) plus the chassis tweaks to really make the most of it. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres all around are good to see also, apparently with more than 6mm of tread on each one (plus an MOT until next September). As a 2.0-litre Sport Nav model to begin with, a limited-slip diff is standard. Obviously it’s a manual example. The power to weight will now rival much more senior sports cars, albeit with the fun and frolics Mazda’s roadster knows so well. 

Yet it’s barely been driven, so presents an amazing opportunity for the next owner. This 2015 car has covered just 11,000 miles in total (it’s not clear when the BBR work happened), meaning even if the parts were fitted nearly new they’ve been subjected to very little use. Certainly the MX-5 presents like the nearly new car that its mileage would suggest it is, both inside and out pretty much flawless. 

Finally, while £18,995 makes this one of the more expensive early ND MX-5s, think what you’re getting for that money. That £11k of upgrades has been driven, at most, 11,000 miles. A comparable standard car (2015, 16,000 miles) is advertised at more than £14,000, so it doesn’t seem much more to pay for a vastly improved MX-5. Some may prefer Soul Red, or the more powerful facelifted car, but then we’re back to square one again and relying on someone to pay for the work, not use it much, then sell it on. A quarter of an hour in this one ought to demonstrate just how unlikely that’s going to be. 


SPECIFICATION | MAZDA MX-5 SKYACTIV-G 2.0

Engine: 1,998cc, 4-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 160@6,000rpm (standard)
Torque (lb ft): 148@4,600rpm (standard)
0-62mph: 7.3sec (standard)
Top speed: 133mph (standard)
MPG: 40.9 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 161g/km
Year registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 11,000
Price new: £23,295 (standard Sport Nav)
Yours for: £18,995

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bigyoungdave

Original Poster:

330 posts

56 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Almost perfect .. but white.. arrghhhh

Twinair

1,028 posts

171 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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One of the few cars I have not driven. People do rave about them!

This looks pretty good value - I guess - given the upgrades…

And everyone should have some top down action in their life…!

I’ve recently taken a Boxster 25 into the fleet, what a great thing that is…

Good vibes to whoever buys this..!

pb8g09

3,223 posts

98 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Gah the colour is frustrating, there are some really nice alternatives.

Does the turbo kit, as opposed to the NA tune from BBR change (ruin) the nature of the car?

Amanitin

542 posts

166 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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having been driven in a regular one of these a couple times, I don't think it really needs any more power unless for track use.
the legroom is hilarious (6'2")
good fun though

Earthdweller

19,319 posts

155 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Very appealing ... but white

S600BSB

8,354 posts

135 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Cracking buy.

86wasagoodyear

972 posts

125 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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pb8g09 said:
Does the turbo kit, as opposed to the NA tune from BBR change (ruin) the nature of the car?
This is the big question !

Nickp82

3,955 posts

122 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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I didn’t realise white was such an unfavourable colour, I think it suits the car very well.

LuS1fer

43,505 posts

274 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Cheaped out on the colour, which is a shame.

That said, £18k is too much for 160 horses. An awful lot of these have very low mileages and a 2017 2.0, even Launch Editions, can be had for around £16k.

A good, low mile 2019 ND2 2.0 with 181hp can be found for 18-19k.

I saved a bit of money going for a sub 40k miler ND2 RF at just over 15k, in a far better colour.

The ND2 2.0s rev to 7500, just like the 1.5 but the ND2s are done at 6500. I do miss the turbo shove, however, a long drawn-out punt to the redline can be hard work.

On the bonus side, you can buy a 2016 sub 40k miles ND 1.5 for under £10k, which is a bargain. The only real things to look for are the drains and the door regulators.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,741 posts

127 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Appealing car, colour aside, though maybe a little expensive ? Mods don't usually hold their value very well, if at all, and these would appear to have depreciated only 50% in nearly 10 years which seems optimistic....

Deerfoot

5,240 posts

213 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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LuS1fer said:
That said, £18k is too much for 160 horses.
It's 250bhp according to the article.

Horsebox Man

107 posts

45 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Nickp82 said:
I didn’t realise white was such an unfavourable colour, I think it suits the car very well.
I think it suits it too.

alock

4,557 posts

240 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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I've recently started looking at ND2s (the 180bhp versions) and don't like how they sit. They all look a little high, as if they still having the shipping blocks in the suspension. The car in this article looks so much better than standard purely because it doesn't have the massive gap above the wheels.

Is there a good article somewhere on lowering options?

LuS1fer

43,505 posts

274 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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Deerfoot said:
LuS1fer said:
That said, £18k is too much for 160 horses.
It's 250bhp according to the article.
Ah, apologies, I was reading the bottom spec. In that event, 250bhp is exactly what the car needs. I find 181 is great for brisk driving but not quite enough for confident overtaking. That said, you realise that most modern cars scoot along at a decent pace anyway. It's a coin flip, in that event, for the cost of the mods vs a 3 year newer car. I suspect the answer is a back to back drive. The ND2 got an adjustable fore and aft steering column.

Of course, if you want a turbo MX5, there is always the 170hp 124 Abarth but it's heavier.

The poster who thought they sit too high may be right but in the flesh, these are tiny and low cars and hard enough to get into at standard height. The 1.5s get 16" wheels, the 2.0 sits on 17s. Being narrow, tyres are also pretty cheap, in a relative sense.

In any event, there is a massive aftermarket for NDs, even more so in the US. Pages on Facebook for owners who seem to have excessive budgets rofl

Edited by LuS1fer on Monday 16th September 09:25

ThomW

1,947 posts

57 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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To everyone complaining about the colour, there's another in the best colour - Soul Red on AT, and it's cheaper:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405129...

British Beef

2,572 posts

194 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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ThomW said:
To everyone complaining about the colour, there's another in the best colour - Soul Red on AT, and it's cheaper:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405129...
only £2500 cheaper but with 5 x more miles..... I would pay more and get the white one!

gruppeb86

631 posts

42 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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I see many are commenting on the colour, which I understand, as I have never, and probably never would, have a car coloured white. However, given there's a brand new housing estate down the road from me and every visible car in the driveway's are seemingly white (or grey), I guess there's a strong market for those trying to live a particular lifestyle.

Edited by gruppeb86 on Monday 16th September 09:34

Nickp82

3,955 posts

122 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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alock said:
I've recently started looking at ND2s (the 180bhp versions) and don't like how they sit. They all look a little high, as if they still having the shipping blocks in the suspension. The car in this article looks so much better than standard purely because it doesn't have the massive gap above the wheels.

Is there a good article somewhere on lowering options?
The Eibach sport springs are £180 odd quid very well spent on mk4s , they improve not only looks but handling a fair amount

pb8g09

3,223 posts

98 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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I don't think it's necessarily because white is so bad, it's more that they offer such beautiful alternative colours on these cars that it's a real missed opportunity to go for the plain white.

Tycho

12,274 posts

302 months

Monday 16th September 2024
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gruppeb86 said:
I see many are commenting on the colour, which I understand, as I have never, and probably never would, have a car coloured white. However, given there's a brand new housing estate down the road from me and every visible car in the driveway's are seemingly white (or grey), I guess there's a strong market for those trying to live a particular lifestyle.

Edited by gruppeb86 on Monday 16th September 09:34
White is usually a no cost colour and when the car is a lease then most people will go for that to keep payments down. I'm guilty of this as well.