25% Lump Sum Question
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Hi
A question on tax free lump sum, best illustrated by example:
You have £1m in your workplace pension and you reach retirement age but do not want to retire.
You want to claim your 25% tax free lump sum so you move your pension to a drawdown provider (as this is the only option available).
So, your workplace pension pays you £250k and moves the rest to your drawdown provider.
You work for another 5 years and you do not touch your drawdown pension. Also, you have 5 years of contributions (yourself and employer) to the new 'pot' you got when you transferred everything out 5 years earlier. You don't touch this either.
The value of the 2 pots after the 5 years is £1.5m and you decide to retire.
So, you still have c. £18k which you can in theory take tax free (the max TFLS is £268k), as your lifetime pot is clearly in excess of the £1,073m max for TFLS.
My question is, I assume you are still entitled to that £18k? If so, how is it monitored?
How would you know that your total pension pot had reached £1,073m so that you would actually be entitled to the full £268k tax free? What would stop sometime with a lifetime pot of £1m over 3 providers claiming the full £268k?
Many thanks
A question on tax free lump sum, best illustrated by example:
You have £1m in your workplace pension and you reach retirement age but do not want to retire.
You want to claim your 25% tax free lump sum so you move your pension to a drawdown provider (as this is the only option available).
So, your workplace pension pays you £250k and moves the rest to your drawdown provider.
You work for another 5 years and you do not touch your drawdown pension. Also, you have 5 years of contributions (yourself and employer) to the new 'pot' you got when you transferred everything out 5 years earlier. You don't touch this either.
The value of the 2 pots after the 5 years is £1.5m and you decide to retire.
So, you still have c. £18k which you can in theory take tax free (the max TFLS is £268k), as your lifetime pot is clearly in excess of the £1,073m max for TFLS.
My question is, I assume you are still entitled to that £18k? If so, how is it monitored?
How would you know that your total pension pot had reached £1,073m so that you would actually be entitled to the full £268k tax free? What would stop sometime with a lifetime pot of £1m over 3 providers claiming the full £268k?
Many thanks
Ignore the previous LTA, it's now immaterial.
You can receive up to 25% of uncrystallised funds on crystallisation. Providing your second, and uncrystallised fund, is valued at least £72,000 you can have £18,000 from it, being your unused Pension Commencement Lump Sum lifetime allowance.
You can receive up to 25% of uncrystallised funds on crystallisation. Providing your second, and uncrystallised fund, is valued at least £72,000 you can have £18,000 from it, being your unused Pension Commencement Lump Sum lifetime allowance.
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