EVs - reduction / withdrawal of salary sacrifice

EVs - reduction / withdrawal of salary sacrifice

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Original Poster:

83 posts

60 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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Hi All,

Does anyone have any information on what the government are doing on reducing/removing the salary sacrifice incentive rate on EVs?

Our leasing company has strongly hinted that they’re extremely concerned that theres going to be a raid on this aspect and I’m keen to understand the potential impact (s).

Many thanks,
D

theboss

7,270 posts

233 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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The BIK rates are set to increase by 1% per year starting in April next year, so your BEV's will go from 2% now to 3% in April, then 4% in 2026 and will do so until 2028 supposedly.

Same with hybrid rates they will increment the same way i.e. 8% now will become 9% in April

Probably fair to assume that the best days are over in terms of EV tax treatment. However I doubt the government will really want to 'raid' EV's too hard as they are trying to incentivise the uptake.

VED will also start next year for new registrations, including the 'luxury' element on cars with RRP over £40k

ucb

1,066 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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It would be pretty straightforward for the Government to alter the P11D calculation rates for ZEVs but it would be at odds with their agreements to improve air quality and CO2 emissions

Mammasaid

4,709 posts

111 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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It's almost as if your leasing company wants you to commit "before the rates rise", thus giving them more business.

Basil Brush

5,308 posts

277 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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I've seen a scrappage scheme mentioned, which would make more sense to me than the current SS approach.

RayDonovan

5,471 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th September 2024
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I could see them amending the SS benefits for non-EVs but just can't see how they'd implement any reduction for EVs without completely destroying the new EV market in the UK...

Might be wrong

DMZ

1,718 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th September 2024
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With the ZEV mandate in place they can easily reduce incentives. Manufacturers are basically forced to sell EVs. The obvious thing to do is to cap the BIK allowance. I doubt a Labour government is interested in subsidising Porsches etc.

Sheepshanks

36,773 posts

133 months

Thursday 19th September 2024
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RayDonovan said:
I could see them amending the SS benefits for non-EVs but just can't see how they'd implement any reduction for EVs without completely destroying the new EV market in the UK...

Might be wrong
I wonder how many NHS staff have gone for salary sacrifice cars? If it's significant, that might cause the Governement to leave it alone - apart from staff anger, there's also a significant pension contribution saving for the NHS.

RayDonovan

5,471 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th September 2024
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Sheepshanks said:
RayDonovan said:
I could see them amending the SS benefits for non-EVs but just can't see how they'd implement any reduction for EVs without completely destroying the new EV market in the UK...

Might be wrong
I wonder how many NHS staff have gone for salary sacrifice cars? If it's significant, that might cause the Governement to leave it alone - apart from staff anger, there's also a significant pension contribution saving for the NHS.
Good point.

Wagonwheel555

895 posts

70 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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ucb said:
It would be pretty straightforward for the Government to alter the P11D calculation rates for ZEVs but it would be at odds with their agreements to improve air quality and CO2 emissions
If it generates revenue, they seem to be quote happy to play fast and loose with their morals.


ashenfie

1,208 posts

60 months

Sunday 22nd September 2024
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RayDonovan said:
I could see them amending the SS benefits for non-EVs but just can't see how they'd implement any reduction for EVs without completely destroying the new EV market in the UK...

Might be wrong
There has to be a point when EV can stand on their own two feet. The environment argument is very week as we could much more for less by fix rail freight and home central heating. It not as if EV support a UK car industry either.

RayDonovan

5,471 posts

229 months

Sunday 22nd September 2024
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ashenfie said:
RayDonovan said:
I could see them amending the SS benefits for non-EVs but just can't see how they'd implement any reduction for EVs without completely destroying the new EV market in the UK...

Might be wrong
There has to be a point when EV can stand on their own two feet. The environment argument is very week as we could much more for less by fix rail freight and home central heating. It not as if EV support a UK car industry either.
Agree on the EV bit but we're not there yet.

jinba-ittai

1,268 posts

224 months

Wednesday 25th September 2024
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Sheepshanks said:
I wonder how many NHS staff have gone for salary sacrifice cars? If it's significant, that might cause the Governement to leave it alone - apart from staff anger, there's also a significant pension contribution saving for the NHS.
Probably less than you'd think, vast majority of NHS staff are not high rate tax payers so the scheme doesn't really make sense for them.

Also - looking at the prices for the NHS SS scheme, I wonder if some degree of pension scheme saving is factored into the prices? given how much cheaper their prices are compared to other SS schemes