RE: Alpine supercar coming in seven-model plan
RE: Alpine supercar coming in seven-model plan
Tuesday 1st October 2024

Alpine supercar coming in seven-model plan

Alpine Hypertech 'centre of excellence' will work on EV powertrains for Alpine and Renault


Alpine has announced the formation of the ‘Hypertech Alpine’ division, which will be responsible for the research and development of upcoming EV projects for both Alpine and Renault. Alongside a brief that includes pursuing solid state battery tech, continuing the WEC and Dacia Dakar programmes plus offering up ‘engineering services for other companies’, Alpine Hypertech will contribute to the development of the upcoming supercar. 

Though a very small confirmation for now, this news is the first official announcement from Alpine that it will build something faster and more exotic than an A110. Indeed it aims to have a seven-model lineup by 2030, presumably with a little more assistance from Hypertech. The supercar will surely take some design inspiration from the Alpenglow concepts; given the explicit focus on electric with Hypertech, it would have to be assumed that the Alpine supercar would be battery-powered. On the other hand, the Alpenglow Hy4 updated the concept with a hydrogen-fuelled engine, so let’s see. 

Hypertech will be based at Viry-Châtillon, which brings us to the next important part of the release: Alpine won’t be making its own F1 engines after the end of next year. Which would mean a works team without a works engine - it has been suggested that Mercedes engines will be bought. It’s huge news, really, the only kind that seems to surface right now, Renault having been an engine builder almost every year since 1977. As part of the Hypertech move, every employee affected by the decision - a ‘transformation project’, no less - will be offered a new position. That could be in something called the F1 monitoring unit, which aims to keep knowledge and skills ‘and remain at the forefront of innovation for Hypertech Alpine's various projects.’

It’s a big move, then, while also with some details to flesh out going forward. Alpine says that Hypertech will begin its work before this year is out. CEO Philippe Krief said: "Creating this Hypertech Alpine centre is key to Alpine's development strategy and, more broadly, to the Group's innovation strategy. It is a turning point in the history of the Viry-Châtillon site, which will ensure the continuity of a savoir-faire and the inclusion of its rare skills in the Group's ambitious future while strengthening Alpine's position as an 'innovation garage'. Its racing DNA remains a cornerstone of the brand. It will continue to fuel an unprecedented industrial and automotive project, thanks particularly to Hypertech Alpine.” Quite what shape that will take remains to be seen, but there is the A290 to look forward to already - expect that review at some point next month.


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Simoninspalding

Original Poster:

176 posts

40 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Seven new models, they haven't let Dany Bahar dream up their new strategy have they?

It would also explain why Lotus decided to run away from the collaboration on future modelshehe

Monkeylegend

29,213 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Lets hope they are more reliable than the current Alpine offering.

Terminator X

20,570 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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IMHO sad times for Alpine forced on them by EU Regs etc.

Also mega expensive hypercars ain't working as EV, poor sales as of right now point to that.

TX.

Justin-ow582

607 posts

134 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Terminator X said:
IMHO sad times for Alpine forced on them by EU Regs etc.

Also mega expensive hypercars ain't working as EV, poor sales as of right now point to that.

TX.
I'm assuming that the mega EVs are part (extortionate) halo car and part development prototype so regardless of whether Lotus (for example) sells their quota of Evijas, they'll be gaining a load of experience for the Emira's replacement in a few years time. Likewise with Rimac, they're using their own cars to develop the tech to sell to other car manufacturers as an off-the-shelf product plus making a few millionaire's wallets a little bit lighter.

Presuming Ed

1,697 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Monkeylegend said:
Lets hope they are more reliable than the current Alpine offering.
Is the A110 unreliable? Always fancied one at some point.

Presuming Ed

1,697 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Still not quite understanding Alpine as a brand. Yes it made sense to launch the A110 but no reason you couldn't have done it as a one off.

RenaultSport had just as strong image with enthusiasts and outside of enthusiasts who even knows what an Alpine is? Bit like Polestar, it just seems an unnecessary and distracting brand and doesn't provide the halo models to Renaults more mundane offerings.

Andy665

4,164 posts

257 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Presuming Ed said:
Monkeylegend said:
Lets hope they are more reliable than the current Alpine offering.
Is the A110 unreliable? Always fancied one at some point.
Is the A110 100% reliable - no

Is it inherently unreliable - no

Only significant issue was fuel pump failure on a lot of the early cars but all should have had it replaced under a recall now

No more problematic than any other car

smilo996

3,825 posts

199 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Door shuts, door opens. If the A290 is anything to go by then even if they don't make 7, the future looks bright.

garypotter

2,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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i just do nto get it witht he A110 really ugly i have tried to like it but not for me.

As mentioned above with EV hyper cars from what i am hearing no ev's are selling well.

Yarlsberg

116 posts

126 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Presuming Ed said:
Monkeylegend said:
Lets hope they are more reliable than the current Alpine offering.
Is the A110 unreliable? Always fancied one at some point.
Never had any problem with mine in 6 years. That’s probably a better reliability record than any equivalent BMW or Audi wink

Lotobear

9,051 posts

157 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Presuming Ed said:
Still not quite understanding Alpine as a brand. Yes it made sense to launch the A110 but no reason you couldn't have done it as a one off.

RenaultSport had just as strong image with enthusiasts and outside of enthusiasts who even knows what an Alpine is? Bit like Polestar, it just seems an unnecessary and distracting brand and doesn't provide the halo models to Renaults more mundane offerings.
I agree with this - for me Alpine's job started and finished with a re imagining of the original iconic Alpine rally car and I think they did a decent job of it. It appealed to a buyer of a certain age who 'got it' for historical/nostalgia reasons

But, now, it seems like a brand without any sense of purpose.

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

137 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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The seven-car lineup in general is likely to contain at least something interesting I'm sure. Neither A110 nor that little electric hatchback thing are exactly for me, but both of them cater for badly underserved sections of the performance market.

The hypercar though, eeeeeh, those things just blend together at this point.

TheMilkyBarKid

878 posts

58 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Yarlsberg said:
Presuming Ed said:
Monkeylegend said:
Lets hope they are more reliable than the current Alpine offering.
Is the A110 unreliable? Always fancied one at some point.
Never had any problem with mine in 6 years. That’s probably a better reliability record than any equivalent BMW or Audi wink
Ours has been faultless, and I definitely couldn't say that about the F Type that preceded it, which was a pain in the arse!

EdIsNotDead

4,217 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Presuming Ed said:
Still not quite understanding Alpine as a brand. Yes it made sense to launch the A110 but no reason you couldn't have done it as a one off.

[...] doesn't provide the halo models to Renaults more mundane offerings.
at the moment.

They've already begun by offering the Alpine A290 as an upmarket/sportier Renault 5. I can imagine they'd try the same for future models.

I could very well think the Alpine brand will now just be a justification for selling "Renaults" at a premium.

Are there still many "enthusiasts" willing and [funded enough] to purchase a pared back, raw Megane RS?

Howrare

322 posts

235 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Simoninspalding said:
Seven new models, they haven't let Dany Bahar dream up their new strategy have they?

It would also explain why Lotus decided to run away from the collaboration on future modelshehe
I came to post exactly the same thing.

charltjr

474 posts

38 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Meh, they’ve basically had to announce this as the unions were going apest about the closure of the F1 engine plant. It’s a big “no jobs will be lost” thing, let’s see what the headcount actually is a few years down the line.

S600BSB

8,354 posts

135 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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TheMilkyBarKid said:
Yarlsberg said:
Presuming Ed said:
Monkeylegend said:
Lets hope they are more reliable than the current Alpine offering.
Is the A110 unreliable? Always fancied one at some point.
Never had any problem with mine in 6 years. That’s probably a better reliability record than any equivalent BMW or Audi wink
Ours has been faultless, and I definitely couldn't say that about the F Type that preceded it, which was a pain in the arse!
Yep, fabulous things.

Nobody13

780 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Andy665 said:
Is the A110 100% reliable - no

Is it inherently unreliable - no

Only significant issue was fuel pump failure on a lot of the early cars but all should have had it replaced under a recall now

No more problematic than any other car
Unfortunately no sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbuir_uQdAE

TheMilkyBarKid

878 posts

58 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Nobody13 said:
Andy665 said:
Is the A110 100% reliable - no

Is it inherently unreliable - no

Only significant issue was fuel pump failure on a lot of the early cars but all should have had it replaced under a recall now

No more problematic than any other car
Unfortunately no sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbuir_uQdAE
Honestly I don’t think anyone on here has ever seen that before… with approximately zero comparable issues with production cars having actually been reported…. I mean it’s not like TG has been known to exaggerate/falsify anything for viewing impact over the years has it? rolleyes FFS


Edited by TheMilkyBarKid on Tuesday 1st October 22:55

AlpineA110NL

48 posts

54 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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My ‘19 legende 100% reliable over 4,5 yrs and 25kkm. Fuelpump replaced under warranty.