Should I buy this 640d tomorrow? Autotrader link provided

[Audia5audia5]

Which 640d would you recommend to buy, planning on buy this week. 2 options:

1. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408253...

2. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404098...


Number 1 has apparently a brand new engine and 2x turbos 1000 miles ago so that could make it superior? Has around 7 services, and last serviced 2021, but engine was replaced after this.

Number 2 has apparently 5 services. No other documented major work or repairs.

[Zippee]

I think I'd want more info on the recall and that requiring a new engine and turbos? Why is the 17 plate also not affected?

[FamousPheasant]

You need to find out more about the work done on the first one. Who did the engine replacement and why.

Based on spec alone the the red interior and the pano roof would be my preference. It's been for sale since late August so I would expect plenty room to negotiate the price, which would give you plenty cash to sort stuff out over the more expensive one. I would have to change the wheels back to silver on either!

[zedx19]

"This car also comes with a brand new engine and 2 x turbos that was supplied and fitted by BMW less than a 1000miles ago with documentation. This was due to a recall on this specific engine that was carried out by bmw . So the engine is perfect pulls like a train ."

A recall for a new engine and turbos? Might be legitimate, but alarm bells ringing for me.

[GreatGranny]

1. Private sale, no comeback, 'new' engine and turbos, recon more like unless they have the proof but cheap.

2. £4k more, lower mileage, newer, dealer so more protection, original engine, better spec?

If the extra £4k is affordable then 2.

Are those the best 2 from your search?

[DanL]

There are a couple of gran coupes on BMW’s website. Both probably affordable for you if you’re looking at those, (17k and 19k in round numbers) and both would come with the very decent BMW approved used warranty.

[Audia5audia5]

For number one, apparently it was a recall done by bmw, and the seller has the paperwork.

That is interesting 1 has been for sale since late august

I was initially planning on viewing and potentially buying number 2, but then thought surely a new engine means you can’t go wrong.

They both tick the boxes in terms of spec for me

[macron]

You do like the murdered out look.

Glad you've settled on what to buy, as above what the recall is that necessitated a full engine is... Not widely known? But if it came from BMW then you'd like to think it's a good sign.

5 services in 72k.miles is poss the limit of condition based, but the rest of the condition - the DNA on those buttons, is so vile I couldn't go near #2.

Id keep looking.

Or buy this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023100426...

Or this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024092946...

Or as this one has already been mapped and parks like a it may be ideal

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024093046...

Basically, anything but the two you chose.

[Audia5audia5]

Number 2 doesn’t have B&O sound system btw (don’t think there’s a single 640d advertised on autotrader right now with one from more than over 100)

Okay so I was only considering number one because of the new engine/turbos - if that actually is more of a negative than positive factor, I will avoid

[Peterpetrole]

macron said:

You do like the murdered out look.

Glad you've settled on what to buy, as above what the recall is that necessitated a full engine is... Not widely known? But if it came from BMW then you'd like to think it's a good sign.

5 services in 72k.miles is poss the limit of condition based, but the rest of the condition - the DNA on those buttons, is so vile I couldn't go near #2.

Id keep looking.

Or buy this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023100426...

Or this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024092946...

Or as this one has already been mapped and parks like a it may be ideal

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024093046...

Basically, anything but the two you chose.

That last one needs saving, Dechav and it's perfect

[maz8062]

It’s not even close - number 1 if the seller can evidence the turbo and engine change. I’d also suggest speaking to the BMW shop that carried out the work to corroborate the story and ask if there was any warranty on their work. If that all checks out, low ball the seller ~ £11k (no more than 12) and get it bought.

[Audia5audia5]

macron said:

You do like the murdered out look.

Glad you've settled on what to buy, as above what the recall is that necessitated a full engine is... Not widely known? But if it came from BMW then you'd like to think it's a good sign.

5 services in 72k.miles is poss the limit of condition based, but the rest of the condition - the DNA on those buttons, is so vile I couldn't go near #2.

Id keep looking.

Or buy this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023100426...

Or this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024092946...

Or as this one has already been mapped and parks like a it may be ideal

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024093046...

Basically, anything but the two you chose.

I am hoping with number 2 they have cleaned the buttons! Viewing it later today. Any other reason you say to avoid?

Car has to be a 65 plate or above due to ULEZ.

I actually think the black and black alloys looks cool haha

[bmwmike]

640i?

But probably not this one https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409113... as the seller thought it ok to use a mobile phone whilst driving head-on at a pedestrian.

[Audia5audia5]

I’ve called number one to clarify.

He said the car went back in for an egr recall (I have heard this is common) and upon inspection, via the inlet manifold, consequent damage to the engine was noted, so bmw decided to change the engine.

He has agreed to kindly send me the paperwork as proof over WhatsApp

[66HFM]

Number 1 subject to the paperwork stacking up as to why the engine and turbos were replaced and what warranty comes from BMW with the new engine.
Definitely needs to be a new rather than recon engine.
As others have mentioned, contact the dealership that replaced the engine and if all adds up buy that one especially with the leather and pan roof.

[Pyrolysis]

1 if the work done is all as it should be.

It has the upgraded seat option which are far better than the standard ones. Vermillion interior and black paint is perfect in my very biased opinion.

[Wills2]

I think as cars get older you're far better getting one that hasn't been chaved up and murdered out, do you really want to own the problems that their ownership will have undoubtedly caused? Both cars linked to I wouldn't touch with a barge pole and I like the 6 GC but ETTO.

I'd look for well kept standard versions that haven't fallen into the wrong hands if you then want to chav it up at least you know you started with a straight car.

[Collectingbrass]

Audia5audia5 said:

I’ve called number one to clarify.

He said the car went back in for an egr recall (I have heard this is common) and upon inspection, via the inlet manifold, consequent damage to the engine was noted, so bmw decided to change the engine.

He has agreed to kindly send me the paperwork as proof over WhatsApp

You seem set on Nr 1, so I will say this as tactfully as I can.

BMW don't change engines and turbos under warranty out of the goodness of their heart, not without a dirtier fight than my ex put up when she wanted my left bk in our divorce. If you really do insist on buying this I would insist on a very thorough inspection by an independent expert, not the AA or RAC, and I would insist on sight of all the legal correspondence, because there will have been some to get this done under warranty.

If it was my money I would be running very rapidly and very far away from this car.

[Audia5audia5]

Collectingbrass said:

You seem set on Nr 1, so I will say this as tactfully as I can.

BMW don't change engines and turbos under warranty out of the goodness of their heart, not without a dirtier fight than my ex put up when she wanted my left bk in our divorce. If you really do insist on buying this I would insist on a very thorough inspection by an independent expert, not the AA or RAC, and I would insist on sight of all the legal correspondence, because there will have been some to get this done under warranty.

If it was my money I would be running very rapidly and very far away from this car.

Thank you so much for this input.

I’m leaning towards number 2 and if no concerns when viewing later today, will likely buy it

[Jiebo]

Wills2 said:

I think as cars get older you're far better getting one that hasn't been chaved up and murdered out, do you really want to own the problems that their ownership will have undoubtedly caused? Both cars linked to I wouldn't touch with a barge pole and I like the 6 GC but ETTO.

It could go either way at this point. Looking at both cars, they are likely owned by degenerates who will abuse the car. Could either be a high income chav / drug dealer that has maintained it, while at the other end its financed by a minimum wage worker who puts linglongs tyres on thinks oil changes are optional.

This generation 6 series is taking a similar trajectory as the previous model. As they get older and cheaper the low socio economic groups buy them and run them into the ground.