Undertaking at worst levels now
Undertaking at worst levels now
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ingenieur

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4,653 posts

210 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Did a couple of long drives recently across Pennines and surrounding motorways and undertaking is at epidemic levels. It's so dangerous. Does not seem to be limited to any particular type of driver. I've had lorries passing on the inside as well as every other sort of driver. Today I was on the outside lane and saw two cars almost hit each other on the inside as the slip road merged with the motorway. Both (and me) did last minute emergency corrections to avoid an accident.

It was probably one of the first rules I learnt from my dad saying it's not good practice while I was a passenger and not yet driving myself.

I would excuse anybody for doing it in the specific case of a speed limit nazi sitting bang on the limit in the outside lane while the other slower lanes are clear for them to drive in and the road ahead is also empty... that does happen!


p1stonhead

30,219 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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You had lorries passing on the inside? While you were in a car?

If there was space on your left for a lorry to undertake you, why were you not in that space already?

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 16th October 19:04

number2

5,229 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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I think they're trolling... feeling a bit lonely and want some attention.

Or, they really could be driving at 50 in the outside lane of a dual carriageway/motorway. biggrin.

Isn't the empty lane one designed for undertaking at 70mph?

wink

ingenieur

Original Poster:

4,653 posts

210 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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p1stonhead said:
You had lorries passing on the inside? While you were in a car?

If there was space on your left for a lorry to undertake you, why were you not in that space already?

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 16th October 19:04
They accelerate into the space that is available and then have to slow down when they reach the back of the slower car. Then I pass them again.

valiant

14,163 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Why aren’t you in lane 1 then? (Other than a slip road)

KillerHERTZ

1,116 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Why aren't you moving over? If people (including lorries) are undertaking you. You are the problem.

swisstoni

23,949 posts

308 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Nice wind-up Op. No dice.

zarjaz1991

6,798 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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ingenieur said:
Did a couple of long drives recently across Pennines and surrounding motorways and undertaking is at epidemic levels. It's so dangerous. Does not seem to be limited to any particular type of driver. I've had lorries passing on the inside as well as every other sort of driver. Today I was on the outside lane and saw two cars almost hit each other on the inside as the slip road merged with the motorway. Both (and me) did last minute emergency corrections to avoid an accident.

It was probably one of the first rules I learnt from my dad saying it's not good practice while I was a passenger and not yet driving myself.

I would excuse anybody for doing it in the specific case of a speed limit nazi sitting bang on the limit in the outside lane while the other slower lanes are clear for them to drive in and the road ahead is also empty... that does happen!
This is one of those threads that won’t go the way the OP expected.

ingenieur

Original Poster:

4,653 posts

210 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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swisstoni said:
Nice wind-up Op. No dice.
I must have been imagining it then. Never mind eh.

swisstoni

23,949 posts

308 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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ingenieur said:
swisstoni said:
Nice wind-up Op. No dice.
I must have been imagining it then. Never mind eh.
Ok. Why were several people passing you on the left do you think?

Edited by swisstoni on Wednesday 16th October 19:18

Dingu

4,893 posts

59 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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ingenieur said:
Did a couple of long drives recently across Pennines and surrounding motorways and undertaking is at epidemic levels. It's so dangerous. Does not seem to be limited to any particular type of driver. I've had lorries passing on the inside as well as every other sort of driver. Today I was on the outside lane and saw two cars almost hit each other on the inside as the slip road merged with the motorway. Both (and me) did last minute emergency corrections to avoid an accident.

It was probably one of the first rules I learnt from my dad saying it's not good practice while I was a passenger and not yet driving myself.

I would excuse anybody for doing it in the specific case of a speed limit nazi sitting bang on the limit in the outside lane while the other slower lanes are clear for them to drive in and the road ahead is also empty... that does happen!
Sounds like being a middle lane Mildred is at epidemic levels.

768

20,678 posts

125 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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They see me trollin'
They hatin'

Yahonza

4,049 posts

59 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Is the OP in the wrong lane?
Just a suggestion for discussion, unless this is trolling (not me).

TheDrownedApe

1,791 posts

85 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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I have plenty of times.

Oh wait I was in heavily built up traffic.

I did undertake today though; a black astra adhering to the temp 60 limt in the outside lane on the m4. I went by him at 65 and the copper advertising in the outside lane waited a good 15 sec for for him to pull in.

Needless to say it wasn't the only crappy driving I witnessed on my 200 mile trip.

J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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If there is room to get past you on the inside, you are in the wrong lane.

Avoid “undertaking” by studiously keeping left when not overtaking.

Surely as a PHer this cannot be serious ?

ingenieur

Original Poster:

4,653 posts

210 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Not sure why everybody thinks this has to be my fault? I drive millimetres off the bumper of the car in front of me in the outside lane waiting for them to move over... unless they're making good progress and then I leave a sensible gap.

Shouldn't need pointing out that with this being the case it would still be possible for people to drive faster in the inside lane... until they reach the back of the next car and are forced to slow down.

Big Nanas

4,246 posts

113 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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ingenieur said:
Not sure why everybody thinks this has to be my fault? I drive millimetres off the bumper of the car in front of me in the outside lane waiting for them to move over......
Good lord, this isn't getting any better. Maybe some driver training would be a sensible idea.

Bluevanman

10,145 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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The OP has never had an accident, they've seen loads though wink

Caddyshack

14,792 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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That last post confirms they are just trolling for attention. If they are not then I think they need some help.

ingenieur

Original Poster:

4,653 posts

210 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Bluevanman said:
The OP has never had an accident, they've seen loads though wink
That's not true. I got them out the way when I was young though.