Replacing a tired Land Cruiser and possibly a 2019 Touareg
Replacing a tired Land Cruiser and possibly a 2019 Touareg
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TorqueDirty

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1,752 posts

243 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Hi folks,

Need some help on the car front – although I suspect the answer will be that I need to lower my expectations, raise my budget and suck it up!

Here goes. I have a 2006 Landcruiser Invincible - which in fairness has proved to be relatively invincible when combined with regular injections of cash.

After 10 years of ownership it is now basically a dog car, dump runner and a winter go to when the weather closes in up here in Scotland.

It has 130k on the clock and all the things that need to work basically do (but several non-critical things that don’t anymore – sunroof etc). I have replaced all the important bits that have needed to be replaced (shocks, brakes, pads, exhaust, drop links, windscreen wiper motor, batteries, etc etc) and the engine just keeps plodding along.

However it is starting to get creaky, is rusting from the ground up and I’m beginning to worry every time I get in to do anything other than short journeys. I have had some welding done on the chassis but this is going to be a losing battle at some point. I replaced the exhaust a few weeks ago and after spending several hours lying under the car I saw things that can’t be unseen!

So I’m idly looking for something to replace it. I want something capable, reliable, spacious (2 big dogs need to fit comfortably in the back) and characterful. I’d prefer it to have decent sized engine rather than an overworked 2.0.

Budget under £20k is preferable for a basic like for like, up to £35k for something that would allow me to chop in my 2019 Touareg against it as well
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The problem? What to get. The obvious answer is always a Land Rover Disco or Range Rover.

A newer Landcruiser is eye wateringly expensive (and I’d prefer a change TBH), I’d be fine with a Discovery but I fear the snapped crank issue and the likely poor reliability. I do want something that can actually cope with heavy snow, mud, ruts and steep mountainous dirt tracks. And the dogs need to fit in the back without being uncomfortable.

If I replace the Touareg as well then the new car will need to be a very nice place to sit. If it just a replacement for the Landcruiser then as long as it works and is sensibly priced I don’t care that much.

I’m tempted to replace it with a late 4.4 L405 Range Rover and use it for everything. That takes me into mid £30k territory, and let’s face it, it will break.

What would you do?

fflump

3,060 posts

62 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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Can you explain why you need to run two large SUVs currently?

eth2190

229 posts

25 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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I'd be after a Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2. Plenty of good later examples in the 15-17k range.

Batfoy

1,671 posts

30 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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TorqueDirty said:
I’m tempted to replace it with a late 4.4 L405 Range Rover and use it for everything. That takes me into mid £30k territory, and let’s face it, it will break.
We all know their reputation for reliability so I'll not bang on about it but if it's of any use, I bought my 2017 FFRR at 16k miles and is now on 52k and hasn't dropped a clanger yet. Not saying it won't mind you...

TorqueDirty

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243 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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fflump said:
Can you explain why you need to run two large SUVs currently?
Well "need" is probably too strong a word but we live down a long dirt track in rural Scotland, at an altitude that means it snows heavily sometimes.

I commute to work and my wife works from home most of the time. When I'm away with one car she still needs to be able to get out in all weathers.

I have often needed to drive through 8 inches of snow in the winter. And I have also got stuck when driving my little hot hatch down the track to our house.

Also we have two big dogs that we tend to walk up in the hills so when I'm at work then we still need a car that can do that job.

NOW........we could easily get by with two much smaller estate cars with winter tyres. But we both like having big 4x4 capability for when we need / want it.

And the landcruiser is too old to be the main long journey car now so I bought a Touareg.

So, you know - need / want / desire / prefer / just ended up that way. Take your pick.


TorqueDirty

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243 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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eth2190 said:
I'd be after a Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2. Plenty of good later examples in the 15-17k range.
Great shout. I had forgotten about them.

fflump

3,060 posts

62 months

Thursday 24th October 2024
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TorqueDirty said:
fflump said:
Can you explain why you need to run two large SUVs currently?
Well "need" is probably too strong a word but we live down a long dirt track in rural Scotland, at an altitude that means it snows heavily sometimes.

I commute to work and my wife works from home most of the time. When I'm away with one car she still needs to be able to get out in all weathers.

I have often needed to drive through 8 inches of snow in the winter. And I have also got stuck when driving my little hot hatch down the track to our house.

Also we have two big dogs that we tend to walk up in the hills so when I'm at work then we still need a car that can do that job.

NOW........we could easily get by with two much smaller estate cars with winter tyres. But we both like having big 4x4 capability for when we need / want it.

And the landcruiser is too old to be the main long journey car now so I bought a Touareg.

So, you know - need / want / desire / prefer / just ended up that way. Take your pick.
That all makes sense perfectly. From my perspective it seems that if you are running 2 cars you can take more of a risk when it comes to reliability (e.g. a Disco) since you're unlikely to be left without any car to drive. If you consolidate to a single car then given your location and lifestyle it needs to be a bit more reliable than a JLR product IMHO.

It then comes down to personal choice and winter weather capabilities. Most modern proper SUVs like the XC90 or the Cayenne perform well in extreme weather when on the right tyres so it kind of comes down to personal choice.