Apple October/November M4 Mac announcements
Apple October/November M4 Mac announcements
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ajprice

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33,377 posts

225 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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There will be a series of Mac announcements this week, first is the M4 iMac



https://www.apple.com/imac/

M4, 16GB RAM, 12MP webcam with 'Centre Stage', AI things on new Siri on the OS. New colours too, but they're still green, blue, orange, red, purple, blue and silver.

Whataguy

1,134 posts

109 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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The increase in base ram is welcome, but their hard drives are still quite small - I'd hoped they would have increased those too.

ajprice

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33,377 posts

225 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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It includes a new USB-C version of the Magic Mouse, the charging port is still in the same place. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/magic-mouse-chargin...

Whataguy

1,134 posts

109 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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People always go on about the charging port being on the bottom, but it fast charges so a 5 minute charge while getting a coffee gives you 8 hours of use I believe.

I like the nano texture option on the iMac, I’ve always found the normal screens to be too reflective as I work near a window.

mmm-five

12,363 posts

313 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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I waited so long for the Apple Silicon iMac and ended up with a Mac Studio and Studio Display as Apple still haven't produced the 27" iMac replacement.

I would also like a higher than 60Hz screen to make GUI elements look less choppy, but I think part of the choppiness problem is Apple's choice to run the Finder/GUI animations/framerate at a variable framerate (average of abput 30FPS) when you move windows around is pointless as there's no reason to save energy on a desktop.

This is my current FPS with a couple of windows open and the mouse moving around - even the max is below 60FPS

stabilio

616 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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I'm sorry but a quarter of a TB hard drive in a new £1000+ device (that's not upgradable) close to 2025 is a joke.

Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 29th October 10:27

ajprice

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33,377 posts

225 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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M4 Mac mini tonight. 5" square with front USB C. From £599.

https://www.apple.com/uk/mac-mini/

DoctorX

8,234 posts

196 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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ajprice said:
M4 Mac mini tonight. 5" square with front USB C. From £599.

https://www.apple.com/uk/mac-mini/
Seems quite good value to me.

geeks

11,655 posts

168 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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Power button is now underneath

At the this point between the new Mac Mini and the new Magimouse with its USB C port underneath its just pure gold from Apple!

Sixpackpert

5,313 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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geeks said:
Power button is now underneath

At the this point between the new Mac Mini and the new Magimouse with its USB C port underneath its just pure gold from Apple!
I don’t really see the problem. I turned my mini on when I got it and it never gets turned off.

geeks

11,655 posts

168 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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Sixpackpert said:
geeks said:
Power button is now underneath

At the this point between the new Mac Mini and the new Magimouse with its USB C port underneath its just pure gold from Apple!
I don’t really see the problem. I turned my mini on when I got it and it never gets turned off.
Oh cheer up

ajprice

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33,377 posts

225 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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wyson said:
stabilio said:
I'm sorry but a quarter of a TB hard drive in a new £1000+ device (that's not upgradable) close to 2025 is a joke.

Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 29th October 10:27
Its £599 for the base model with 256GB. You get 512GB as soon as you pay £799, which is what Apple expects most people to buy.
stabilio was talking about last night's new iMac, not tonight's new Mini.

Whataguy

1,134 posts

109 months

Tuesday 29th October 2024
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An M4 /512gb new mini is a great bargain at £799 - if you compare it to windows PCs there’s nothing similar.

I ran the M2 mini for a while and it was a good machine. On that the power button was on the back so difficult to reach anyway if you had tucked it under a monitor. Although I rarely needed to use it, as the mini was just out to sleep when not being used.

colin79666

2,218 posts

142 months

Wednesday 30th October 2024
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geeks said:
the new Magimouse with its USB C port underneath its just pure gold from Apple!
Well if it was in the top you would feel it every time you used the mouse! I don’t see the problem, just plug it in when going to lunch and when you come back it’s charged for the next 2 months.

ajprice

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33,377 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th October 2024
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There's one more announcement to go, MacBooks, Mac Studio, Mac Pro or something else?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 30th October 2024
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Macbook Pro’s have been leaked already. I think the 14 inch is getting one more thunderbolt port, M4 Pro, M4 Max chips. They look the same however.

mmm-five

12,363 posts

313 months

Wednesday 30th October 2024
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colin79666 said:
Well if it was in the top you would feel it every time you used the mouse! I don’t see the problem, just plug it in when going to lunch and when you come back it’s charged for the next 2 months.
Could have it at the front like the Logitech MX Master or MX Anywhere.

I got to try my first Magic Mouse (v1, non-rechargable) when I bought a new iMac, but used it for about a week before switching back to a Logitech mouse. It felt too small & flat for my hand. Although I should have expected that as I'd stopped using the included Apple mice from about 2003 (the 'hockey puck' model was atrocious, and the Apple Pro Mouse was much better but had regular problems with side buttons sticking), so I went to Logitech RX, MX Revolution, MX Master (and VX/MX for the laptop).

I have tried all the new Apple mice as they've come out (if they've been included with a new computer - like the Mighty Mouse with touch-sensitive nipple, and the 2 versions of Magic Mouse, but I've always quickly reverted to the Logitech mice.

Whataguy

1,134 posts

109 months

Wednesday 30th October 2024
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I also use a Logi MX Master 3S, but have a Magic Mouse for travelling as it's much smaller.

Some good news today, 16gb starting memory on the current airs at the same price. Plus the pro models get up to 1000 nits of standard brightness and also the option of nano glass to reduce reflections.

Completely blows away the HP laptops I had for many years which only put out 250-300 nits of brightness.

They're reporting a 24 hour battery life for the pro models too, I remember my old 17 inch windows laptop that got 3 hours of life on battery and that wasn't being pushed that hard.

ajprice

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33,377 posts

225 months

Saturday 9th November 2024
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M4 Mac Minis are being delivered now, articles and videos showing that the storage is a removable card, not soldered in. Not sure whether it's standard M.2, and it's buried inside a few layers in the teardowns, but there's a chance that it's upgradeable.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 10th November 2024
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Someone called dosdude1 on youtube put a video up of a storage upgrade. It wasn’t meant to be user serviceable and hence its a very involved process.

No point voiding your warranty, tanking resale values when you can get a decently sized thunderbolt ssd drive for £100 - £200.