Yale alarm, any good?
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Stevemr

Original Poster:

735 posts

172 months

Saturday 23rd November 2024
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As title really.
Looking at this Yale alarm:-
Yale Sync Smart Home Alarm 6 piece Kit with Grey Siren IA-320G
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with them, or alternate suggestions?

dba7108

642 posts

184 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Had one and found it slow and clunky. Also batteries were a pain to change.

SlimJim16v

6,918 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Wireless alarms need to have anti-jam and other stuff I forgot.

Stevemr

Original Poster:

735 posts

172 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Sadly wireless is my only option.
In what way was it slow and clunky?
How often do batteries last?

Drogo

781 posts

233 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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We have one that I installed Aug 2020

Pro's
Easy to install to your needs (I don't use any PIR's, false alarms)
Phone app to set/unset, panic button
System checks itself and will tell you if batteries need changing
Can walk test the contacts
Can set zones for home and away
Batteries last years in most of the contacts, only changed the front door once since install

Con's
App can be a little clunky at times
May need to re login once or twice a year

Happy to help with any other info

Road2Ruin

5,972 posts

232 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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I am on my second yale alarm in two different houses. The current one is now over 5 years old.
Easy to install and modify as you need. Plenty of options for add ons like smoke detectors and cameras. You can do it all by app, which I have found fine.

The battery length is variable, but it let's you know when they get low. I change some of the sensors batteries (PIRs mainly) about every 18 months. Only two aaa, so not a big deal. The wall box battery has been changed once in 5 years.

Jamescrs

5,414 posts

81 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Had a number of Yale alarms, first one was not a smart alarm but otherwise similar , lasted about 18 months and the control unit/ siren box failed, bought another same model so I didn't have to replace sensors, again after 18 months same thing failed.

I then bought a Yale smart alarm, could have been the same model but I don't recall, wouldn't sync with the app at all, called technical support and they couldn't solve it so returned it for a refund.

Now have a Ring alarm system which was more expensive but the app is very good, easy to install and maintain and it links in with my CCTV cameras so I would recommend a Ring system over Yale

OldGermanHeaps

4,689 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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They do not comply to any of the british standards or european norms for intruder alarm systems, so really they are just a pretend home automation type product. The wireless protocols are not secure and easy to jam/spoof, and their signalling path is easily blocked with a £24 wifi blocking watch, same as wifi cameras. It is common for sensors and sounders to go faulty, but give no indication they are faulty unless you actively walk test them. You would get a similar level of protection from a decent dummy bell box.
It isnt much more money for something decent like a pyronix enforcer or texecom ricochet sysyem.

Road2Ruin

5,972 posts

232 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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OldGermanHeaps said:
They do not comply to any of the british standards or european norms for intruder alarm systems
Really?
Not according to their website! Or are you on commission for the other products?

Drogo

781 posts

233 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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OldGermanHeaps said:
easily blocked with a £24 wifi blocking watch.
Going equipped, book him Dano!

OldGermanHeaps

4,689 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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What grade do they conform to?
I amn't going to waste my time trawling through their website sifting through their marketing lies, but i would bet £100 that it cannot meet bs en 50131 which is the only intruder alarm standards that really count for anything.
Any certifications they claim will be weasly third party paid for certs that sound valid to diyers but hold no water as far as actually being able to guarantee performance where it counts.
I only make any money on products I sell directly, and I dont supply to diyers and i do very little domestic.
I am on the hook legally if what i supply fails to perform in the process of a break in so I can only recommend products that actually work.
I have come across a number of yale systems that have failed to perform, and havent given an indication that there was a fault until walk tested.

OldGermanHeaps

4,689 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Drogo said:
OldGermanHeaps said:
easily blocked with a £24 wifi blocking watch.
Going equipped, book him Dano!
They are very popular with car thieves, they are effective against diy alarms and wireless cameras.
There are a few ex range rover owners in glasgow who thought ring cameras and yale alarms were great protection and so easy to fit.

Drogo

781 posts

233 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Are you not talking about two different problems, blocking the home alarm and camera wifi and unlocking a car?

Anyway OP

If you can't use a wired system and need some sort of protection I think either a Yale (no subscription) or Ring (subscription) system would be better than nothing.

anonymous-user

70 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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“ No DIY alarm system meets Grade 2 EN50131 standards. This is due to the lack of independent risk assessment and the potential for errors in installation, such as poorly-placed sensors”

The Yale seems a good system got a DIYer

OldGermanHeaps

4,689 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Wifi alarms cant signal if the wifi is being blocked.
Wifi cameras cant record if the wifi is being blocked.
Yales wireless protocol between the sensors and panel is poorly monitored and very easily jammed.

The difference in price to get something far more effective is tiny.
Buy whatever you want but dont get confused that you are getting a bargain, the unapproved tat is no better than a £50 aliexpress job.

Stevemr

Original Poster:

735 posts

172 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Thanks for the replies so far.
OGH, you recommended “It isnt much more money for something decent like a pyronix enforcer or texecom ricochet system.”
Could you advise which particular ones to look at.
The property I want to protect is 3 rooms, 3 windows and 2 doors.
With the Yale one at £200, I thought the Two PIRs would look after it, the window alarm could go on one window that’s a bit more vulnerable. And I could get an additional PIR to go in the garage.
But if as you say, it can be jammed that simply, and there is something wireless that can’t be jammed then that’s better.
But to be honest I’m not sure what I’m looking at.

OldGermanHeaps

4,689 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th November 2024
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Pyronix enforcer kit 3 comes with 4 pirs and a door contact. you only need a contact on the second door if you plan on using it as an entry/exit route, contacts offer little protection they are more to start and stop the entry/exit timer, the room is better protected by a pir.
You can add extra pirs and contacts as you see fit though.
Can see a new one on ebay for 250 buy it now at the moment.

Stevemr

Original Poster:

735 posts

172 months

Monday 25th November 2024
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I have had a look at that enforcer 3 kit.
It’s not very clear from there website if it’s all wireless?
It doesn’t seem to mention range either.
Other than that it does look as if it would cover everything well if there is enough range to have a PIR in the garage.

OldGermanHeaps

4,689 posts

194 months

Monday 25th November 2024
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The keypad needs mains. Everything else is wireless.
You can wire the external siren if you want but it comes with 4x cr123 batteries.
Wireless range is 300m and its quite punchy for getting through walls and steel.

Stevemr

Original Poster:

735 posts

172 months

Monday 25th November 2024
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Ah. That’s the problem I don’t want anything that has to be wired in.
Any other possibles?