I really don't have a clue!!

[carinatauk]

I currently drive a Mitsubishi pickup and shortly the need to have such a car will be zero. All my previous cars have been ICE, some BMWs, and the odd TVR.

Any change compared to the pickup will be a saving in fuel and servicing.

However I am considering moving across to a secondhand EV but not really sure whether this a sane move or cost sensible.

The key considerations are the two large dogs, so boot space, decent miles / charge and the fact I have to consider that I go to Edinburgh or Liverpool once per month. The rest of the driving is 50 miles each way max. I have off road charging ability.

The car is solely for personal use and I don't wish to have finance / lease costs. Oh and <£35k

I have had a good look around and have come up with either a Tesla Y or Skoda Enyaq, with gadgets.

But to be honest I don't really understand the EV market or the cars available. Ironically I have always looked on these what car threads with skeptism about people being lazy sods and not looking for themselves, but here I am

[blueacid]

carinatauk said:

I currently drive a Mitsubishi pickup and shortly the need to have such a car will be zero. All my previous cars have been ICE, some BMWs, and the odd TVR.

Any change compared to the pickup will be a saving in fuel and servicing.

However I am considering moving across to a secondhand EV but not really sure whether this a sane move or cost sensible.

The key considerations are the two large dogs, so boot space, decent miles / charge and the fact I have to consider that I go to Edinburgh or Liverpool once per month. The rest of the driving is 50 miles each way max. I have off road charging ability.

The car is solely for personal use and I don't wish to have finance / lease costs. Oh and <£35k

I have had a good look around and have come up with either a Tesla Y or Skoda Enyaq, with gadgets.

But to be honest I don't really understand the EV market or the cars available. Ironically I have always looked on these what car threads with skeptism about people being lazy sods and not looking for themselves, but here I am

Where will you be travelling from, to get to Edinburgh or Liverpool? Or, in other words, how many miles each way are your longer trips?
The other useful thing to check is: do you have any kind of charging available when you're in those two places? That'll be quite useful indeed, so that you could do each leg of the journey without needing to stop and actively wait for the car to charge.

However, given you're coming from a TVR, other suggestions (like the MG 5 estate) might be a bit dull. I'd suggest going for a test drive in the Model Y; there should be loads of these coming off finance agreements and still having a wedge of battery/drivetrain warranty remaining. The charging for that will just "be fine"; you'll have access to all the Tesla Superchargers, which are a damn sight cheaper than most other public charging (save for if you find a rare £0 charger somewhere).

[anonymous-user]

I have an Enyaq with gadgets (packs/full leather/sunroof/extra soundproofing incl double skin side windows)
Jan 24 car, ex Skoda Head Office, under £30k used (incl 2 free services). That was including a pcp contribution, which you keep even if withdraw from rhe pcp in first 14 days..)
Range when I got it in Sep was 300+, 250 when freezing, so not bad.
A great car. quiet & comfortable.
Very happy with it!
(Tesla superchargers, I rarely public charge, but anyone can use most Tesla ones, that’s all i’ve used)(ABRP satnav, I filter to only use Tesla ones. It plans route for you, live update on their availability etc using ABRP nav on carplay in the Skoda)

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 28th November 13:54

[Skodillac]

How much are those VW ID7 estates now?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409264...

Hmmm. A bit over budget. Wait 6 months maybe...

[carinatauk]

blueacid said:

Where will you be travelling from, to get to Edinburgh or Liverpool? Or, in other words, how many miles each way are your longer trips?
The other useful thing to check is: do you have any kind of charging available when you're in those two places? That'll be quite useful indeed, so that you could do each leg of the journey without needing to stop and actively wait for the car to charge.

However, given you're coming from a TVR, other suggestions (like the MG 5 estate) might be a bit dull. I'd suggest going for a test drive in the Model Y; there should be loads of these coming off finance agreements and still having a wedge of battery/drivetrain warranty remaining. The charging for that will just "be fine"; you'll have access to all the Tesla Superchargers, which are a damn sight cheaper than most other public charging (save for if you find a rare £0 charger somewhere).

Hi, firstly long distance trips would be 300 miles each way, however with a few days at the destinations. Secondly, just 3 pin plug at the destination points though [there would be a commercial point somewhere near I am sure]. Free charging would be a blessing

ETA mostly A & M routes

[samoht]

carinatauk said:

Hi, firstly long distance trips would be 300 miles each way, however with a few days at the destinations. Secondly, just 3 pin plug at the destination points though [there would be a commercial point somewhere near I am sure]. Free charging would be a blessing

ETA mostly A & M routes

Batteries generally range from 50-100 kWh capacity. A three pin charger will refill at 2 kW, so 25-50 hours. So a couple of days plugged in would fully recharge the largest battery.

I think the question you need to ask is whether you're happy to make a single recharging stop somewhere on your 300 mile trip, or not.

If not then the need for 300 motorway miles reliably year-round will very much determine which EV you should get.
If you're ok to stop then you only need c. 200 miles range (to have some flexibility), which opens up many more options.

[_Hoppers]

If it helps to give you an idea of how often you may need to charge, have a look at Tesla's journey planner. I expect it may be a bit optimistic with range but I'm sure it will help?

https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/trips

[gmaz]

Tesla Y for the supercharging network when you have to do longer journeys

Factor in about £1000 for a home charger and switching to an EV tariff such as Octopus, then you can fill up for about £5.

[_Hoppers]

There's also this site which allows you to adjust parameters which include battery degradation etc

https://abetterrouteplanner.com/

[anonymous-user]

gmaz said:

Tesla Y for the supercharging network when you have to do longer journeys

Factor in about £1000 for a home charger and switching to an EV tariff such as Octopus, then you can fill up for about £5.

Anyone can use the Tesla supercharger network (most locations)

[gmaz]

James6112 said:

gmaz said:

Tesla Y for the supercharging network when you have to do longer journeys

Factor in about £1000 for a home charger and switching to an EV tariff such as Octopus, then you can fill up for about £5.

Anyone can use the Tesla supercharger network (most locations)

About half can be used by other vehicles, but they are also cheaper and more reliable than other networks.

[anonymous-user]

gmaz said:

James6112 said:

gmaz said:

Tesla Y for the supercharging network when you have to do longer journeys

Factor in about £1000 for a home charger and switching to an EV tariff such as Octopus, then you can fill up for about £5.

Anyone can use the Tesla supercharger network (most locations)

About half can be used by other vehicles, but they are also cheaper and more reliable than other networks.

True yes, my first choice!

[carinatauk]

Interesting comments, thanks all. Still not sure which one to get but have a better understanding

[Ste-EVo]

carinatauk said:

I currently drive a Mitsubishi pickup and shortly the need to have such a car will be zero. All my previous cars have been ICE, some BMWs, and the odd TVR.

Any change compared to the pickup will be a saving in fuel and servicing.

However I am considering moving across to a secondhand EV but not really sure whether this a sane move or cost sensible.

The key considerations are the two large dogs, so boot space, decent miles / charge and the fact I have to consider that I go to Edinburgh or Liverpool once per month. The rest of the driving is 50 miles each way max. I have off road charging ability.

The car is solely for personal use and I don't wish to have finance / lease costs. Oh and <£35k

I have had a good look around and have come up with either a Tesla Y or Skoda Enyaq, with gadgets.

But to be honest I don't really understand the EV market or the cars available. Ironically I have always looked on these what car threads with skeptism about people being lazy sods and not looking for themselves, but here I am

I think if you are happy factor in a charge stop between Liverpool and Edinburgh then there are alot more options open to you. If like me, I couldnt do that journey with out a coffee and toilet break which would be enough time to top up the batteries. But, the Model Y and Skoda Enyak are good options at that price point and should meet your needs.

The new Renault Scenic is coming in with your price to and have a decent boot space and a really good range, decent looking thing imo too.

[ashenfie]

I always google moose test along with reviews, so that’s the Skoda out and Tesla is first place. The Tesla network is attracts major place and best if you can find Tesla only charging as less like to queue and info data on how busy the charging point is before getting there. Tesla cars are automatically members of the charging network and it £8.99 a month for non Tesla cars.