Alpine A110 - issues with handbrake
Discussion
Hey @ all,
first - I apologize if my english isn't the best, I'm from Germany. And my husband and me are (or were?) happy owners of an Alpine A110. We bought the car in July and unfortunately, at the moment it looks like the automatic parking brake has some problems that cannot be solved. At first we thought, we are just too stupid to handle it the right way. We've travelled to France in September and after a few rides in the Alps the rear brake started to squeak and grind. Some people said: That's a sport car and normal. But in the workshop it turned out that the caliper was set incorrectly. It seemed that they managed the problem, we got the car back and one day later the parking brake no longer released automatically, the display showed a message like "Release manually". Since that day this problem occurs sporadically. So we brought the car back to the workshop. Result: The caliper at the left rear brake was damaged and got replaced. We don't know how that could have happened, but okay, same thing, we picked the car up and ended up with the same problem the next day.
Thank you very much!
Alex
first - I apologize if my english isn't the best, I'm from Germany. And my husband and me are (or were?) happy owners of an Alpine A110. We bought the car in July and unfortunately, at the moment it looks like the automatic parking brake has some problems that cannot be solved. At first we thought, we are just too stupid to handle it the right way. We've travelled to France in September and after a few rides in the Alps the rear brake started to squeak and grind. Some people said: That's a sport car and normal. But in the workshop it turned out that the caliper was set incorrectly. It seemed that they managed the problem, we got the car back and one day later the parking brake no longer released automatically, the display showed a message like "Release manually". Since that day this problem occurs sporadically. So we brought the car back to the workshop. Result: The caliper at the left rear brake was damaged and got replaced. We don't know how that could have happened, but okay, same thing, we picked the car up and ended up with the same problem the next day.
Thank you very much!
Alex
Edited by ApMc on Friday 4th April 09:15
Hi
I remember seeing this in early posts about handbrake reset which is done after fitting new pads. It might be worth a try. I’ve never done this myself.
This is the full park brake calibration and rear pad swap process. It puts up the same error on the dash when uncalibrated, and makes me think it could be the only thing sensitive to a flat battery?
Seems long winded but actually easy once you are used to it. The car has to be on flat ground to do it.
With car in Park and all doors shut press start/stop without foot on the brake to turn the ignition on
Depress brake pedal and push down park brake button to release park brake
Release button and brake pedal
Depress brake pedal
Depress throttle pedal whilst keeping brake depressed, maintain pressure on both pedals
Press down on the parking brake button and hold it down until the red light on it begins to flash
Release the park brake button and both pedals
With red light still flashing push down on the park brake button
You will hear the park brake whirr for a long time as it fully releases and goes into service mode. The car will make an audible ding and you will get a brake error message
Simply open the driver's door to turn off the ignition and then you can do the rear pad change.
Once all bolted up reset the parking brake as follows:
Pump the brake pedal to push the pads back to the disc
With car in Park and all doors shut press start/stop without foot on the brake to turn the ignition on
The red light on the parking brake lever should still be flashing
Depress brake pedal
Depress throttle pedal whilst keeping brake depressed, maintain pressure on both pedals
Pull up on the parking brake lever whilst keeping the pedals depressed. You will hear the parking brake whirr as it recalibrates its position and the red light will stop flashing
Release foot pedals and parking brake button
Depress brake pedal and pull up park brake button to put the park brake on and confirm its function, red light will come on
I remember seeing this in early posts about handbrake reset which is done after fitting new pads. It might be worth a try. I’ve never done this myself.
This is the full park brake calibration and rear pad swap process. It puts up the same error on the dash when uncalibrated, and makes me think it could be the only thing sensitive to a flat battery?
Seems long winded but actually easy once you are used to it. The car has to be on flat ground to do it.
With car in Park and all doors shut press start/stop without foot on the brake to turn the ignition on
Depress brake pedal and push down park brake button to release park brake
Release button and brake pedal
Depress brake pedal
Depress throttle pedal whilst keeping brake depressed, maintain pressure on both pedals
Press down on the parking brake button and hold it down until the red light on it begins to flash
Release the park brake button and both pedals
With red light still flashing push down on the park brake button
You will hear the park brake whirr for a long time as it fully releases and goes into service mode. The car will make an audible ding and you will get a brake error message
Simply open the driver's door to turn off the ignition and then you can do the rear pad change.
Once all bolted up reset the parking brake as follows:
Pump the brake pedal to push the pads back to the disc
With car in Park and all doors shut press start/stop without foot on the brake to turn the ignition on
The red light on the parking brake lever should still be flashing
Depress brake pedal
Depress throttle pedal whilst keeping brake depressed, maintain pressure on both pedals
Pull up on the parking brake lever whilst keeping the pedals depressed. You will hear the parking brake whirr as it recalibrates its position and the red light will stop flashing
Release foot pedals and parking brake button
Depress brake pedal and pull up park brake button to put the park brake on and confirm its function, red light will come on
Hey,
and many thanks to both of you! I've read that the battery could be a problem, but I'm still wondering why it got worse after they made some changes at the caliper?
So I guess the tip Andy gave me could be woth a try.. We will ask if they calibrated the park brake like it should be done.. Only issue could be that Alpine tells the seller what to do and they are not allowed to work on their own or bring in own ideas. So if Alpine says No they can't do anything. It's a little annoying but we still hope that we can work this out..
Again thank you, I really appreciate that!
and many thanks to both of you! I've read that the battery could be a problem, but I'm still wondering why it got worse after they made some changes at the caliper?
So I guess the tip Andy gave me could be woth a try.. We will ask if they calibrated the park brake like it should be done.. Only issue could be that Alpine tells the seller what to do and they are not allowed to work on their own or bring in own ideas. So if Alpine says No they can't do anything. It's a little annoying but we still hope that we can work this out..
Again thank you, I really appreciate that!
In this video the rear caliper service mode / reset procedure is better explained. Though it's in french, but you can enable subtitles.
https://youtu.be/ntBqN2gNmPo?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/ntBqN2gNmPo?feature=shared
Good morning,
and thanks for the link! Seems like an easy thing to do? I'm wondering if any work on the rear caliper is possible without calibrating the parking brake at the end? I would guess that they just use a computer for this?
And what I also absolutely don't understand is why there was another Alpine in the workshop at the same time with the same problem and why only the Pure-Version seems to have that issue.
We're in the dark.
I forgot to mention that the problem got better for two days after they made a reset on all control devices which was their last idea. Originally the car was there because of the grinding and squeaking which came from the rear brake and as a consequence of the efforts to get rid of that problem they replaced the rear caliper which lead to the "faulty parking brake". Sorry for the confusion.
Greetings!
and thanks for the link! Seems like an easy thing to do? I'm wondering if any work on the rear caliper is possible without calibrating the parking brake at the end? I would guess that they just use a computer for this?
And what I also absolutely don't understand is why there was another Alpine in the workshop at the same time with the same problem and why only the Pure-Version seems to have that issue.
We're in the dark.
I forgot to mention that the problem got better for two days after they made a reset on all control devices which was their last idea. Originally the car was there because of the grinding and squeaking which came from the rear brake and as a consequence of the efforts to get rid of that problem they replaced the rear caliper which lead to the "faulty parking brake". Sorry for the confusion.
Greetings!
I haven't heard of these issues and although that doesn't mean they don't exist it would suggest that they are very rare. Given that you say there was another car in the dealership with the exact same problem I do wonder whether it's something that's been introduced by that dealer. Maybe something they have done, probably unknowingly, has caused the problem. Worth a post on the Owner's FB page
Hello again,
miracles do happen. Alpine Germany contacted us a few hours ago and said "Thank you" because of all the postings from the french forum etc., they say that we've helped them to identify / get to know the problem in Germany. Again they contacted Alpine France and it seems like now they are really trying to find a way out of that chaos. Now we're all waiting for answers from France but probably they will resume work on the car because they now believe us that the problem actually exists.
:-)
miracles do happen. Alpine Germany contacted us a few hours ago and said "Thank you" because of all the postings from the french forum etc., they say that we've helped them to identify / get to know the problem in Germany. Again they contacted Alpine France and it seems like now they are really trying to find a way out of that chaos. Now we're all waiting for answers from France but probably they will resume work on the car because they now believe us that the problem actually exists.
:-)
Oh no! May I ask which seats are installed? In our car we got the comfort seats that can be adjusted electronically. I think there are also bucket seats (hopefully that's the correct word for it) which only allow three different positions. as far as we know by now this problem only happens with the comfort seats...
you could be right I guess!Well...that doesn't sound too good. My husband seriously doubts that the seat contacts are the problem but we will see... I hope your Alpine pulls herself together! I will update this topic when we got ours back, which will be in round about two weeks hopefully..
Hey y'all!
And happy new year from Germany!
Could someone here try this and tell me what happens?
Our other car does nothing except releasing the parking brake if you press gas and brake at the same time. That's it.
It would be so great if someone could help us. Thank you and have nice evening!
All the best!
And happy new year from Germany!
Could someone here try this and tell me what happens?
Our other car does nothing except releasing the parking brake if you press gas and brake at the same time. That's it.
It would be so great if someone could help us. Thank you and have nice evening!
All the best!
Edited by ApMc on Friday 4th April 09:12
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