ONLY OFFERING PLUG IN

[loskie]

Looking at the Agency's(my employer a Govt agency) car lease scheme yesterday it looks like only PLUG in cars are now available. We operate UK wide, I'm based in Scotland. We have routine work but are there for reactive work. Often requiring access to remote/rural parts of the UK working where there's no chargers.


What's that all about?

The claimable amount will be 7p per mile. What are realistic costs? Or for the pedants who ask for more info. Some examples of actual costs per mile.

Will 7p per mile leave the driver out of pocket?

[xx99xx]

Driven sensibly you can average 3-4 miles per kWh. So it all depends how much it costs to plug in.

At home, you should get a decent overnight rate of 5-8p per kWh. Which equates to 3 miles for 8p if you go worst case.

Some government departments allow staff to claim back the cost of a public charge on expenses, given that the 7p per mile rate won't cover it.

[loskie]

xx99xx said:

Driven sensibly you can average 3-4 miles per kWh. So it all depends how much it costs to plug in.

At home, you should get a decent overnight rate of 5-8p per kWh. Which equates to 3 miles for 8p if you go worst case.

Some government departments allow staff to claim back the cost of a public charge on expenses, given that the 7p per mile rate won't cover it.

The y are allowing that and most probably should NOT be( especially on M Ways) it's quite controversial and not down to depts but individual managers which is just causing grief

[page3]

xx99xx said:

At home, you should get a decent overnight rate of 5-8p per kWh. Which equates to 3 miles for 8p if you go worst case.

That's not accurate though, as cheap off-peak is shored up by expensive peak. Average (for me) was about 16p per kWh. So no, 7p is insultingly below cost.

[xx99xx]

page3 said:

That's not accurate though, as cheap off-peak is shored up by expensive peak. Average (for me) was about 16p per kWh. So no, 7p is insultingly below cost.

It is accurate if you only charge the car overnight, which is what most people do.

And even if it was costing you 16p per kWh, you'd get 3-4 miles of driving for that kWh. For which, you can claim back 21-28p (7p x 3 or 4 miles). So 7p is still far from insulting.

[plfrench]

page3 said:

That's not accurate though, as cheap off-peak is shored up by expensive peak. Average (for me) was about 16p per kWh. So no, 7p is insultingly below cost.

Not in all cases. Ovo for example is 7p/kWh for EV and 21.63 p/kWh for household, no difference to the household tariff whether I’m using Anytime or not.

With regards to the OP, either refuse to do journeys longer than half your range, or look for another job. Our company recently stopped allowing us to claim public charging costs so I have said if I can’t make the trip on home charge alone then I will take public transport and taxis instead. I’m not paying to work.

[loskie]

OP here. I use my own car and claim the 45ppm set by HMRC or use a rental car as per policy and claim the full receipted fuel amount. I was toying with the idea of a hybrid car but now if only full electric available I would avoid. There's aren't even any chargers at the work car park

[Amateurish]

When you say "plug in" cars, what do you mean.

Do you mean pure electric vehicles only?

Or does this include "plug in hybrid" vehicles?

[Jimbo.]

Many Government fleets are now electric-only for any incoming vehicles (unless there’s a case for specific roles e.g. HGVs, cranes, plant, floating kit etc). That, and the reference to 7ppm makes me think EV.

[loskie]

Amateurish said:

When you say "plug in" cars, what do you mean.

Do you mean pure electric vehicles only?

Or does this include "plug in hybrid" vehicles?

Pure electric

Plug In Hybrids that were available get the petrol mileage rate 17ppm IIRC

[xx99xx]

loskie said:

Pure electric

Plug In Hybrids that were available get the petrol mileage rate 17ppm IIRC

Petrol hybrids get the advisory rate of a standard petrol ICE. So either 12p, 14p or 23p depending on engine size (as of Dec 1). Obviously these are just advisory and actual rates may differ between organisations, but usually public sector stick to advisory rates.