£21k stolen from phone snatch
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8y70pvz92o
BBC article about a guy having lost £21k after his phone was stolen. But he says it has facial recognition and password protection.
How is this possible? The thief even managed to get a £7k loan from HSBC but the victim could not get such a loan himself when he was trying previously.
BBC article about a guy having lost £21k after his phone was stolen. But he says it has facial recognition and password protection.
How is this possible? The thief even managed to get a £7k loan from HSBC but the victim could not get such a loan himself when he was trying previously.
Don't know all the specifics with this guy but in general terms say you hand someone your laptop or phone right now and it's unlocked and the person you give it to can get to your email and answer your calls and see your SMS messages think how much they can do to f
k up your life and how quickly they could do it.

They were able to transfer £14k to Monzo which is easier to make a payment but just can't see how they got access to the money in HSBC in the first place.
Unless there is more to it than meets the eye e.g. the thieves made it look like a simple grab but it has actually been targeted so they already had his password e.g. over his shoulder while he was accessing in public. But then again, he wouldn't be doing that in public since he would use facial recognition.
Unless there is more to it than meets the eye e.g. the thieves made it look like a simple grab but it has actually been targeted so they already had his password e.g. over his shoulder while he was accessing in public. But then again, he wouldn't be doing that in public since he would use facial recognition.
Maybe he uses a password manager but has the app configured not to lock or it was unlocked.
Maybe he's a prat and has all his password in his Notes app.
Like I said no idea how the loan stuff happened and I don't know the specifics of how you login to the banks in question but I can think of all kinds of ways someone could get enough info from an unlocked phone to login to a bank account - you could do it with mine if you had access to my unlocked phone and I'd been slack with storing passwords.
Maybe he's a prat and has all his password in his Notes app.
Like I said no idea how the loan stuff happened and I don't know the specifics of how you login to the banks in question but I can think of all kinds of ways someone could get enough info from an unlocked phone to login to a bank account - you could do it with mine if you had access to my unlocked phone and I'd been slack with storing passwords.
leef44 said:
Is Face ID more secure than finger print, just out of curiosity?
Probably not much of a difference in this context. The risk is if you have your phone snatched while it’s unlocked. Without Face ID enabled at the app level, they will have access to your SMS and emails which opens up the ability to do password resets etc. leef44 said:
Is Face ID more secure than finger print, just out of curiosity?
I'm sure cryptography experts will have a view or two but in the context of handing an average thief a locked iPhone secured with one or the other I wouldn't care which one it was - my view would be good luck with that.leef44 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8y70pvz92o
BBC article about a guy having lost £21k after his phone was stolen. But he says it has facial recognition and password protection.
How is this possible?
The app was open when the phone was snatched presumably. BBC article about a guy having lost £21k after his phone was stolen. But he says it has facial recognition and password protection.
How is this possible?
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