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Does anyone use stampworld or expert on stamps....
Looking to value Uk and Spanish stamps from 1840-1990/2000 ish. Missing some of the most valuable ones but still plenty of interesting stuff and quite a collection (5 books uk 7 spanish) not sure what to do.
One auction house will need them for weeks, another was dismissive having gone quickly gone over on the phone ( seeking the most valuable ) however when I use stampworld suggests should have a fair bit here ?
Is that definitely true or just an old guy sounding off that doesn't like people collecting stamps?
Single stamps like this, sold recently
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365211070180
Single stamps like this, sold recently
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365211070180
daytonavrs said:
Is that definitely true or just an old guy sounding off that doesn't like people collecting stamps?
Single stamps like this, sold recently
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365211070180
Yes, but that looks like a specific Penny Back (with the Maltese Cross), possibly quite a rare stamp - normal Penny Blacks are quite common (hence valueless).Single stamps like this, sold recently
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365211070180
When I tried getting my mothers collection valued around 10 years ago, the valuer thought there might be a couple of value but I'd be better off and would get more value by using the more modern stamps as they're still valid when there's no price on them...
IANAL or a stamp expert by any means...
Edited by Dashnine on Monday 16th December 15:34
Dashnine said:
Yes, but that looks like a specific Penny Back (with the Maltese Cross), possibly quite a rare stamp - normal Penny Blacks are quite common (hence valueless).
This, you would imagine that Penny Blacks are worth a fortune as they were the first stamps and are 184 years old, but plenty sell on eBay from anywhere between £20 and £50.True, but even that one I have ( not pinning hopes on that individually being mint ) seems better quality that the £20 odd ones so even that one stamp alone is likely far from "worthless"
Has margins - the ones sold at the low end have none apparently? And seem to be sold as "spacefillers"
Has margins - the ones sold at the low end have none apparently? And seem to be sold as "spacefillers"
Similar issue for me.
My Mother has given me a box of my (dead) Dad’s Spanish stamps that he collected in the late 70s/early 80s when he was working out there. I suspect he spent reasonable sums of money - he was on a tax-free ex-pat type salary at the time and pissed away money on all sorts of stuff.
It’s properly done - sheets of the stuff in binders. My Mother thinks I might be interested (understandably as I can be a bit of a collector) but I have no interest whatsoever so just want to get rid of them.
No idea where to start. I’m wondering if finding a charity that might accept them is the best bet.
My Mother has given me a box of my (dead) Dad’s Spanish stamps that he collected in the late 70s/early 80s when he was working out there. I suspect he spent reasonable sums of money - he was on a tax-free ex-pat type salary at the time and pissed away money on all sorts of stuff.
It’s properly done - sheets of the stuff in binders. My Mother thinks I might be interested (understandably as I can be a bit of a collector) but I have no interest whatsoever so just want to get rid of them.
No idea where to start. I’m wondering if finding a charity that might accept them is the best bet.
Any from 1850?
Apparently even used should be from 200gbp except the blacks which aren't worth terribly much ( but still not worthless, about the same as Penny Black "copies" sell on ebay ).
Just on the 1st page have 2 blacks a red and blue used QI2 in reasonably fine cond, which is supposed to be about 700 and thats just the first few stamps of a book full for me ?
https://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/Spain/
Apparently even used should be from 200gbp except the blacks which aren't worth terribly much ( but still not worthless, about the same as Penny Black "copies" sell on ebay ).
Just on the 1st page have 2 blacks a red and blue used QI2 in reasonably fine cond, which is supposed to be about 700 and thats just the first few stamps of a book full for me ?
https://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/Spain/
We've just concluded the initial phase of selling my late fathers stamp collection. This may not all be applicable to your situation, but should be helpful.
My late father was a keen stamp collector and was an active member of the local philatelic society. They were extremely helpful in the process.
We still have 4 albums of the stamps my late father cared about the most - we presume they're the most valuable, but time will tell.
A few people from the local philatelic society spent a significant amount of time over a period of about a year going through the collection and sorting it out. During this period various stamps were sold direct to members who specialised in those particular stamps - this netted maybe £2k - £3k. At the same time, bulk items were sold to people interested in that type of thing - I believe the term is "kiloware".
After that we were left with maybe 100 - 150 albums sorted by category. These went to Somerset Stamp Auctions, who sold them for a net total of around £11k. Somerset Stamp Actions were brilliant, and I fully recommend them. Likewise engaging your local philatelic society. (I think I have the spelling correct, but I might not).
My late father was a keen stamp collector and was an active member of the local philatelic society. They were extremely helpful in the process.
We still have 4 albums of the stamps my late father cared about the most - we presume they're the most valuable, but time will tell.
A few people from the local philatelic society spent a significant amount of time over a period of about a year going through the collection and sorting it out. During this period various stamps were sold direct to members who specialised in those particular stamps - this netted maybe £2k - £3k. At the same time, bulk items were sold to people interested in that type of thing - I believe the term is "kiloware".
After that we were left with maybe 100 - 150 albums sorted by category. These went to Somerset Stamp Auctions, who sold them for a net total of around £11k. Somerset Stamp Actions were brilliant, and I fully recommend them. Likewise engaging your local philatelic society. (I think I have the spelling correct, but I might not).
I don't mind donating a bit to charity, my will is going to include to local animal charities/ rspca anyway but we looking after ourselves first! My wife has C and I don't have any real long term idea of how long my employment will last.
For Spanish did you have anything like what I found here, a (SPA) 1860 Queen Isabella II - Colored Paper, 19CS in Brown.
Meant to be 2500 unused, 1200 used, someone selling has a similar one to mine though more like 350Eu so its probably roughly around that or less, but still nothing to be sneezed at I guess ?
Also this one comissioned by comex spa. 1867 19 cuartos rosa, dentado, nuevo.
a nuestro juicio el sello es autentico, tiene el centraje desplazado, mancha de oxido y un punto claro
Translated "1867 19 pink quarters, serrated, new.
In our opinion, the seal is authentic, it has a displaced centering, rust stain and a clear dot."
Is supposed to be ~1200 unused? That is just on the back attached as authenticated one rather than in the main spaces for stamps.
Just flicking through also found many pages on just because I'm getting bored registering each one year up, theres a 20c 1878 unused meant to be 175.
Also have the 10 peseta one looks unused meant to be the peak for that year at 400 Eur.
For Spanish did you have anything like what I found here, a (SPA) 1860 Queen Isabella II - Colored Paper, 19CS in Brown.
Meant to be 2500 unused, 1200 used, someone selling has a similar one to mine though more like 350Eu so its probably roughly around that or less, but still nothing to be sneezed at I guess ?
Also this one comissioned by comex spa. 1867 19 cuartos rosa, dentado, nuevo.
a nuestro juicio el sello es autentico, tiene el centraje desplazado, mancha de oxido y un punto claro
Translated "1867 19 pink quarters, serrated, new.
In our opinion, the seal is authentic, it has a displaced centering, rust stain and a clear dot."
Is supposed to be ~1200 unused? That is just on the back attached as authenticated one rather than in the main spaces for stamps.
Just flicking through also found many pages on just because I'm getting bored registering each one year up, theres a 20c 1878 unused meant to be 175.
Also have the 10 peseta one looks unused meant to be the peak for that year at 400 Eur.
omniflow said:
We've just concluded the initial phase of selling my late fathers stamp collection. This may not all be applicable to your situation, but should be helpful.
My late father was a keen stamp collector and was an active member of the local philatelic society. They were extremely helpful in the process.
We still have 4 albums of the stamps my late father cared about the most - we presume they're the most valuable, but time will tell.
A few people from the local philatelic society spent a significant amount of time over a period of about a year going through the collection and sorting it out. During this period various stamps were sold direct to members who specialised in those particular stamps - this netted maybe £2k - £3k. At the same time, bulk items were sold to people interested in that type of thing - I believe the term is "kiloware".
After that we were left with maybe 100 - 150 albums sorted by category. These went to Somerset Stamp Auctions, who sold them for a net total of around £11k. Somerset Stamp Actions were brilliant, and I fully recommend them. Likewise engaging your local philatelic society. (I think I have the spelling correct, but I might not).
Oh wow many thanks for this I didn't see this due to not engaging browser refresh on reviewing the first book of spanish stuff.My late father was a keen stamp collector and was an active member of the local philatelic society. They were extremely helpful in the process.
We still have 4 albums of the stamps my late father cared about the most - we presume they're the most valuable, but time will tell.
A few people from the local philatelic society spent a significant amount of time over a period of about a year going through the collection and sorting it out. During this period various stamps were sold direct to members who specialised in those particular stamps - this netted maybe £2k - £3k. At the same time, bulk items were sold to people interested in that type of thing - I believe the term is "kiloware".
After that we were left with maybe 100 - 150 albums sorted by category. These went to Somerset Stamp Auctions, who sold them for a net total of around £11k. Somerset Stamp Actions were brilliant, and I fully recommend them. Likewise engaging your local philatelic society. (I think I have the spelling correct, but I might not).
In some ways the original fellow ( a friend of my dad who popped his poor clogs quite a many years ago) had already sought documentation or wrote notes on many of the items which partly helps confirm them.
This is just a small fraction of that then with just 13 albums. But 14K from the above is splendid. Even if its a small fraction of that with this limited selection of 13 albums if it got up to maybe roughly £2k worth that really isn't to be sneezed at is it?
Will be interesting to see how you get on. I’ve got a child hood collection that contains GB only, pre 1840 covers, various plate and post mark Penny Blacks with good borders, 1840 2d blues all the way up to high value Sea Horses, Gerorge v1 and everything in between. Almost every 1d Red plate apart from the very rare ones. I started this collection as a child for my Duke of Edinburgh award and I go hooked.
Collected various water marks and perf versions of the same stamp and I turned into a right bore geek as a child and got the occasional wedgie as a result.
My understanding is that the Chinese were keen on European stamps for a few years and then the market just vanished. Old collectors died and nobody there to replace them. Stanley Gibbons suffered and lots of little shops just vanished.
However, you do see some big value auctions and single items still going for big money. I might drag mine out of the loft!
Collected various water marks and perf versions of the same stamp and I turned into a right bore geek as a child and got the occasional wedgie as a result.
My understanding is that the Chinese were keen on European stamps for a few years and then the market just vanished. Old collectors died and nobody there to replace them. Stanley Gibbons suffered and lots of little shops just vanished.
However, you do see some big value auctions and single items still going for big money. I might drag mine out of the loft!
Edited by oldaudi on Tuesday 17th December 09:07
Edited by oldaudi on Tuesday 17th December 09:08
Like Snuffy and other posters, I have a load of FDCs plus used and unused, from waaay back when I was a young 'un.
Even 20 years ago when I was trying to make life tidier I took them to a dealer in Newcastle, (Corbetts??). Was told to put the unused ones on envelopes, they were worth more that way.
Still got the albums in a cupboard, probably worth even less now. Mostly GB but a lot of world too.
Remember thinking in the 1960's "these will be worth loads some day", we were always getting told that.
Still it might have helped my Geography.
Even 20 years ago when I was trying to make life tidier I took them to a dealer in Newcastle, (Corbetts??). Was told to put the unused ones on envelopes, they were worth more that way.
Still got the albums in a cupboard, probably worth even less now. Mostly GB but a lot of world too.
Remember thinking in the 1960's "these will be worth loads some day", we were always getting told that.
Still it might have helped my Geography.
Skyedriver said:
Like Snuffy and other posters, I have a load of FDCs plus used and unused, from waaay back when I was a young 'un.
Even 20 years ago when I was trying to make life tidier I took them to a dealer in Newcastle, (Corbetts??). Was told to put the unused ones on envelopes, they were worth more that way.
Still got the albums in a cupboard, probably worth even less now. Mostly GB but a lot of world too.
Remember thinking in the 1960's "these will be worth loads some day", we were always getting told that.
Still it might have helped my Geography.
I think that once stamp collecting became popular (ie by children as opposed to die-hard philatelists), values declined simply because (a) there are many more in existence (b) stamps were issued just for people to collect.Even 20 years ago when I was trying to make life tidier I took them to a dealer in Newcastle, (Corbetts??). Was told to put the unused ones on envelopes, they were worth more that way.
Still got the albums in a cupboard, probably worth even less now. Mostly GB but a lot of world too.
Remember thinking in the 1960's "these will be worth loads some day", we were always getting told that.
Still it might have helped my Geography.
The real money is for the very rare ones. The Mona Lisa as opposed to a £50 painting in a gift shop.
As a child, I was given my Grandpa's stamp album, which i still have, and it had quite a lot of very old stamps in it.
But then, I can indeed remember my parents buying me little packets of say 100 random stamps from around the world. So yes, stamps created for the sake of collecting stamps (especially for young lads i suppose).
But then, I can indeed remember my parents buying me little packets of say 100 random stamps from around the world. So yes, stamps created for the sake of collecting stamps (especially for young lads i suppose).
snuffy said:
When i was a child, I collected First Day Covers. I have about 500, kept in photo albums from new, so like new condition. They used to be worth say £5 each, say 20 or more years ago.
Now they appear to sell for 50p for 500 on Ebay. I'd rather burn them than sell them now.
Same thing when my ex father in law died, my ex wife found he had boxes and boxes of presentation packs in nice Royal Mail wooden boxes.Now they appear to sell for 50p for 500 on Ebay. I'd rather burn them than sell them now.
She was a bit disappointed when she found out they were worth around £1 each, infact the boxes were worth more than the stamps.
I have been to numerous junk shops and they always have boxes and boxes of first day covers for sale for 50p each, clearly collected from deceased house clearances.
I used to collect stamps as a child and I remember buying the 1983 River Fish presentation pack, the stamp face value is 80 pence, 41 years on you can buy them on eBay for £1.55 delivered and the seller has sold 227 sets.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110832160279?_skw=fish+...
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