Sir Kier appoints Mandelson as US Ambassador
Sir Kier appoints Mandelson as US Ambassador
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Diderot

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9,168 posts

214 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/12/19/lo...

You have got to admire politicians for their brass necks.

Earthdweller

17,298 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Diderot said:
What could possibly go wrong?

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Everything ?

Getragdogleg

9,785 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Like a bad smell that just wont go away.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jef...

Vanden Saab

17,210 posts

96 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Bloody hell, he has actually picked a former EU Commissioner as US ambassador. At what point do we have to accept Starmers actions have gone from stupidity to actively trying to ruin the country.
Good job we have Farage to assure Trump these muppets are not representative of the UK as a whole.

Earthdweller

17,298 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Mendacious, Machievelian Mandleson ... I can see him going down a storm with Washington

Almost like two tier is trying to wind up the yanks

laugh

Ridgemont

8,421 posts

153 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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The scuttlebut is that he (Mandelsson) was actually aiming for the Oxford Chancellorship but Hague got that.

To be honest I don’t have a problem with him doing it: he’s relatively competent and is excellent at comms and PR which is a large chunk of the job as Sir Christopher Meyer understood and performed well at. Dame Karen Pierce (the most recent) was good.

I’d be intrigued to see how Mandellson plays with the incoming team but he is a heavyweight character.

As mentioned a few posts earlier he does carry ‘baggage’ though. The ststorm with the oligarch yacht (and mortgages) may fade into insignificance if there is a genuine Epstein link.
But then I suspect that is the case for the vast majority of the US establishment (though the US press do enjoy pursuing Prince Andrew despite the enormous amount of evidence re certain extremely wealthy and powerful US individuals being in Epstein’s orbit).

All in all not bothered.

Sporky

10,074 posts

86 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Vanden Saab said:
Good job we have Farage to assure Trump these muppets are not representative of the UK as a whole.
This may be the funniest thing ever posted.

cheesejunkie

5,167 posts

39 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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Seeing that headline I thought WTF?

I'm trying to give labour a bye ball. I think they're a breath of fresh air after the last st show. But my patience is being tried.

Mandy? WTAF!

Expletives aside I'm sure he'll get along among certain backrooms but I'd love to know the agenda that resulted in choosing him.

reddiesel

2,998 posts

69 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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I don't think there is an Agenda more a complete dearth of any Political Talent . As regards any effect on Trump , Mandelson will prove a complete irrelevance .

cheesejunkie

5,167 posts

39 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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reddiesel said:
I don't think there is an Agenda more a complete dearth of any Political Talent . As regards any effect on Trump , Mandelson will prove a complete irrelevance .
I think so too, but you don't pick a man like that for no reason. I doubt he still holds the clout where he can pick himself. So ... that leaves room for suspicious thoughts.

alangla

6,173 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th December 2024
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cheesejunkie said:
Seeing that headline I thought WTF?

I'm trying to give labour a bye ball. I think they're a breath of fresh air after the last st show. But my patience is being tried.

Mandy? WTAF!

Expletives aside I'm sure he'll get along among certain backrooms but I'd love to know the agenda that resulted in choosing him.
When Blair is (overtly) back in government you’ll know the clock has fully turned back to the 1990s.

Remember, Things Can Only Get Better…

TwigtheWonderkid

47,736 posts

172 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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cheesejunkie said:
reddiesel said:
I don't think there is an Agenda more a complete dearth of any Political Talent . As regards any effect on Trump , Mandelson will prove a complete irrelevance .
I think so too, but you don't pick a man like that for no reason. I doubt he still holds the clout where he can pick himself. So ... that leaves room for suspicious thoughts.
I think you underestimate Mandelsson at your peril. He's a very shrewd political operator and as slippery as a bucket full of eels. I don't think Trump is daft, but I suspect Mandelsson will quickly work out just how to play him in order to get the best deal for Britain re possible trade tariffs and the like.

TwigtheWonderkid

47,736 posts

172 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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Earthdweller said:
Mendacious, Machievelian Mandleson ...
You make that sound like a bad thing. maybe that's just what's needed with the incoming Trump administration. This is no time for playing with a straight bat.

Ridgemont

8,421 posts

153 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Earthdweller said:
Mendacious, Machievelian Mandleson ...
You make that sound like a bad thing. maybe that's just what's needed with the incoming Trump administration. This is no time for playing with a straight bat.
Lol.

blearyeyedboy

6,718 posts

201 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
You make that sound like a bad thing. maybe that's just what's needed with the incoming Trump administration. This is no time for playing with a straight bat.
Agreed. Mandelson, love him or loathe him is (a) competent, (b) very observant and aware of wheeling and dealing around him and (c) is good at avoiding direct political barrages when things get sticky.

He may not be the hero we asked for, but he's got the skills to be the boke we need right now.

daqinggregg

5,335 posts

151 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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“Hey Mike, you’re Bridish, wot you know about Mandelson.”
“He was a special advisor to the Prime Minister of Great Britain, Sir”
“He did wot, for the President of England?”
“Special advisor, Sir.”
“You mean, like Elon?”
“Well, yes and no, Sir.”
“OK, wot woz he?
“Oh, he used to be the Prime Minister of Great Britain, Sir.”
“I didn’t know that.”
“Neither did the British, Sir.”
“Really.”
“Do you remember, Tony Blair, Sir?”
“Tony, who?”
“The British sycophant, that cosied up to Bush, Sir.”
“The Bridish what, speak goddamn English, Mike.”
“Remember, Wendy Murdoch, Sir?”
“Oh that Tony, President of England. He’s going to be Ambassador?”
“No Sir.”


tangerine_sedge

6,114 posts

240 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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Sporky said:
Vanden Saab said:
Good job we have Farage to assure Trump these muppets are not representative of the UK as a whole.
This may be the funniest thing ever posted.
It's even funnier when you realise that VS actually believes it too. hehe

Tommo87

5,343 posts

135 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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So… who here has some cash and would like a UK passport.



Sporky

10,074 posts

86 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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tangerine_sedge said:
Sporky said:
Vanden Saab said:
Good job we have Farage to assure Trump these muppets are not representative of the UK as a whole.
This may be the funniest thing ever posted.
It's even funnier when you realise that VS actually believes it too. hehe
Lordy!

I'm not a Starmer or - heaven forbid - Mandelson fan, but actually thinking Farage is anything other than a loudmouth puppet?

birdcage

2,890 posts

227 months

Friday 20th December 2024
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It was between him and an eel