Trade seller who’s not actually in used car selling trade?
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This car fits all my requirements http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024092042...
AT has it marked as trade sale, but (1) it’s not a dealership, they don’t have any other cars for sale (2) reviews on AT are suspicious - 4 five star reviews, all in very short period of time. Google reviews are more legitimate but about the retrimming / luxury fitting business, not about car sales.
I asked the seller where they got the car from, he mentioned something about buying from Audi dealership as they liked the car. Doesn’t make sense to be honest, why would they get into a one-off purchase of a used performance car with the intention to sell, not being in the used car selling business? I’m being assured it’s a 1 previous owner car, the owner being the individual who sold it to the Audi dealership.
Getting the spec list was hard, I pushed and in the end he presented an email from the Audi dealer, sent on the same day I asked i.e. he didn’t have it to hand.
Does something not add up or am I being paranoid?
AT has it marked as trade sale, but (1) it’s not a dealership, they don’t have any other cars for sale (2) reviews on AT are suspicious - 4 five star reviews, all in very short period of time. Google reviews are more legitimate but about the retrimming / luxury fitting business, not about car sales.
I asked the seller where they got the car from, he mentioned something about buying from Audi dealership as they liked the car. Doesn’t make sense to be honest, why would they get into a one-off purchase of a used performance car with the intention to sell, not being in the used car selling business? I’m being assured it’s a 1 previous owner car, the owner being the individual who sold it to the Audi dealership.
Getting the spec list was hard, I pushed and in the end he presented an email from the Audi dealer, sent on the same day I asked i.e. he didn’t have it to hand.
Does something not add up or am I being paranoid?
pmn3 said:
This car fits all my requirements http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024092042...
AT has it marked as trade sale, but (1) it’s not a dealership, they don’t have any other cars for sale (2) reviews on AT are suspicious - 4 five star reviews, all in very short period of time. Google reviews are more legitimate but about the retrimming / luxury fitting business, not about car sales.
I asked the seller where they got the car from, he mentioned something about buying from Audi dealership as they liked the car. Doesn’t make sense to be honest, why would they get into a one-off purchase of a used performance car with the intention to sell, not being in the used car selling business? I’m being assured it’s a 1 previous owner car, the owner being the individual who sold it to the Audi dealership.
Getting the spec list was hard, I pushed and in the end he presented an email from the Audi dealer, sent on the same day I asked i.e. he didn’t have it to hand.
Does something not add up or am I being paranoid?
They appear to have a number of other cars for sale, not even including the supposed V Class “land jets” they specialise in.AT has it marked as trade sale, but (1) it’s not a dealership, they don’t have any other cars for sale (2) reviews on AT are suspicious - 4 five star reviews, all in very short period of time. Google reviews are more legitimate but about the retrimming / luxury fitting business, not about car sales.
I asked the seller where they got the car from, he mentioned something about buying from Audi dealership as they liked the car. Doesn’t make sense to be honest, why would they get into a one-off purchase of a used performance car with the intention to sell, not being in the used car selling business? I’m being assured it’s a 1 previous owner car, the owner being the individual who sold it to the Audi dealership.
Getting the spec list was hard, I pushed and in the end he presented an email from the Audi dealer, sent on the same day I asked i.e. he didn’t have it to hand.
Does something not add up or am I being paranoid?
I suppose I would have found out eventually, before buying; if it’s an import then it must say on some paperwork(?)
Obviously that leaves the issue of seller not disclosing it, car having most likely been in an accident (why else import all the way from NZ), the story about 1 previous owner and buying from Audi UK being bs, etc
Obviously that leaves the issue of seller not disclosing it, car having most likely been in an accident (why else import all the way from NZ), the story about 1 previous owner and buying from Audi UK being bs, etc
pmn3 said:
WTF
Thanks and so glad I checked on here
I knew something was wrong. Not having the spec of a car that’s barely 2 years old was the red flag
Look up that post more carefully [link below] They are an import company suggesting European cars to NZ and Aus amongst others. As comparatively we are cheap for some of these. Thanks and so glad I checked on here
I knew something was wrong. Not having the spec of a car that’s barely 2 years old was the red flag
https://www.facebook.com/share/Etibm2UpwocumGTC/
it's also in pics here but a quick Google would have found this.
https://www.motoringnomad.com/2024/01/caffeine-and...
Edited by scot_aln on Thursday 19th December 23:41
pmn3 said:
What’s your view?
That you’re quite paranoid and jump to conclusions too quickly. Either buy privately, where you can get a measure of the previous owner and a discount that provides a maintenance fund, or buy from a franchised dealer.
I’d be the same buying from a dealership like that, it would always be in the back of my mind when spending that kind of money. They might be absolutely fantastic and I’m doing them a complete dis service, but when spending £100k, I’d want total confidence.
It is a lovely car though.
The only odd thing is the car is VAT Qualifying as this is normally only possible if the car was rental, contract hire or used as a business demonstrator.
The picture from Euro Imports has been copied from BCA and the date the car was transferred to trade (September 9th 2024) matches this.
If the car seems right put a deposit on it subject to a full pre purchase inspection.
The picture from Euro Imports has been copied from BCA and the date the car was transferred to trade (September 9th 2024) matches this.
If the car seems right put a deposit on it subject to a full pre purchase inspection.
pmn3 said:
Does being in BCA auction mean the car was sold by the previous owner through WBAC or similar?
No, could be via any vendor that sells via BCAHave you found out where it was supplied from new / spoken to the dealer etc?
Edited by PoorCarCollector on Friday 20th December 21:08
PoorCarCollector said:
No, could be via any vendor that sells via BCA
Have you found out where it was supplied from new / spoken to the dealer etc?
Has Mon Motors (they hold an Audi franchise) plates and based on the start of the reg number I would say Audi Cardiff. Have you found out where it was supplied from new / spoken to the dealer etc?
Edited by PoorCarCollector on Friday 20th December 21:08
It’s unlikely the main dealer would have traded it unless there was a known issue.
Auto810graphy said:
Has Mon Motors (they hold an Audi franchise) plates and based on the start of the reg number I would say Audi Cardiff.
It’s unlikely the main dealer would have traded it unless there was a known issue.
Perhaps never been serviced so can’t be sold as approved used? No mention of service history in the ad.It’s unlikely the main dealer would have traded it unless there was a known issue.
That said, the story about the current seller buying it from the dealer seems unlikely, and if they’d bought it to use it then it would have added another keeper. Could be an early returned contract hire car, hence VAT qualifying.
Sheepshanks said:
Perhaps never been serviced so can’t be sold as approved used? No mention of service history in the ad.
That said, the story about the current seller buying it from the dealer seems unlikely, and if they’d bought it to use it then it would have added another keeper. Could be an early returned contract hire car, hence VAT qualifying.
I know lots of dealers who buy a car to use and don’t transfer the keeper.That said, the story about the current seller buying it from the dealer seems unlikely, and if they’d bought it to use it then it would have added another keeper. Could be an early returned contract hire car, hence VAT qualifying.
If I get chance later there are a couple of trade reports I can run that might show a bit more about the cars past.
Sheepshanks said:
Oh - I thought cars in the trade couldn’t be taxed any more?
Lots of traders used to set up a direct debit and tax online for as long as they needed however DVLA have got wise to this and must have something in place to trace these people and block them from doing it. The other way is just tax online but dont change the keeper. There are also people able to tax cars without any documents for a small fee.
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