Thank you traction control!
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Had a big brown trouser moment yesterday.
Riding my Triumph Tiger 1200 on Bridgestone AX41s the bike snapped sideways then corrected itself within less than a second as I rolled on past a junction at about 45mph.
Very greasy roads, 50/50 tyres and maybe a little complacency as I’d been riding for an hour with no loss of grip or traction and I certainly had a wake up call.
Without modern electronics I think I probably would have been off.
I think I’ll stick to my CFMoto with 44bhp instead of the Tiger with 148 unless it’s dry and mild out.
Riding my Triumph Tiger 1200 on Bridgestone AX41s the bike snapped sideways then corrected itself within less than a second as I rolled on past a junction at about 45mph.
Very greasy roads, 50/50 tyres and maybe a little complacency as I’d been riding for an hour with no loss of grip or traction and I certainly had a wake up call.
Without modern electronics I think I probably would have been off.
I think I’ll stick to my CFMoto with 44bhp instead of the Tiger with 148 unless it’s dry and mild out.
Why are you using those on that?
The only tyres in recent memory that totally let go (albeit grabbed again) were Bridgestones. Three times with T32 on my CBF500 (in the wet and dry!) and twice with A41s on my strom in the wet (i think the IMU potentially activated on the worst of those). Awful, awful, awful tyres when anything more than 6 months or so old - they go rock hard.
Conversely, I just went through a lane with 3 inch thick mud with Roadsmart 4s and not once did it slide - i don't know how dunlop do it.
Agree wirh t/c but a lot of it is tyres
The only tyres in recent memory that totally let go (albeit grabbed again) were Bridgestones. Three times with T32 on my CBF500 (in the wet and dry!) and twice with A41s on my strom in the wet (i think the IMU potentially activated on the worst of those). Awful, awful, awful tyres when anything more than 6 months or so old - they go rock hard.
Conversely, I just went through a lane with 3 inch thick mud with Roadsmart 4s and not once did it slide - i don't know how dunlop do it.
Agree wirh t/c but a lot of it is tyres
Edited by Biker9090 on Sunday 22 December 23:45
Edited by Biker9090 on Monday 23 December 00:51
Biker9090 said:
Why are you using those on that?
The only tyres in recent memory that totally let go (albeit grabbed again) were Bridgestones. Three times with T32 on my CBF500 (in the wet and dry!) and twice with A41s on my strom in the wet (i think the IMU potentially activated on the worst of those). Awful, awful, awful tyres when anything more than 6 months or so old - they go rock hard.
Conversely, I just went through a lane with 3 inch thick mud with Roadsmart 4s and not once did it slide - i don't know how dunlop do it.
Agree wirh t/c but a lot of it is tyres
I thought the AX41s were well rated? Admittedly I only checked one review though. The only tyres in recent memory that totally let go (albeit grabbed again) were Bridgestones. Three times with T32 on my CBF500 (in the wet and dry!) and twice with A41s on my strom in the wet (i think the IMU potentially activated on the worst of those). Awful, awful, awful tyres when anything more than 6 months or so old - they go rock hard.
Conversely, I just went through a lane with 3 inch thick mud with Roadsmart 4s and not once did it slide - i don't know how dunlop do it.
Agree wirh t/c but a lot of it is tyres
Edited by Biker9090 on Sunday 22 December 23:45
Edited by Biker9090 on Monday 23 December 00:51
I put them on so I could use the bike on occasional green lanes and ABR loop in the summer. I think they performed well in that scenario. They were good on road in the dry too.
I agree about Dunlop Roadsmarts - I had them on my previous Honda VFR-X and found them excellent.
To be fair, on second thoughts, I don’t know if the IMU got involved in Friday’s moment- I wasn’t looking at the dash, could well just have been the tyre re-gripping.
Maybe Dunlop Trailmax for the next set. Dear Father Christmas …
GM182 said:
I thought the AX41s were well rated? Admittedly I only checked one review though.
I put them on so I could use the bike on occasional green lanes and ABR loop in the summer. I think they performed well in that scenario. They were good on road in the dry too.
I agree about Dunlop Roadsmarts - I had them on my previous Honda VFR-X and found them excellent.
To be fair, on second thoughts, I don’t know if the IMU got involved in Friday’s moment- I wasn’t looking at the dash, could well just have been the tyre re-gripping.
Maybe Dunlop Trailmax for the next set. Dear Father Christmas …
Ah, yeah understandable if you do that. I do remember a mcn (?) review about them where something similar was mentioned. I put them on so I could use the bike on occasional green lanes and ABR loop in the summer. I think they performed well in that scenario. They were good on road in the dry too.
I agree about Dunlop Roadsmarts - I had them on my previous Honda VFR-X and found them excellent.
To be fair, on second thoughts, I don’t know if the IMU got involved in Friday’s moment- I wasn’t looking at the dash, could well just have been the tyre re-gripping.
Maybe Dunlop Trailmax for the next set. Dear Father Christmas …
I went out of my way to get a bike with all the aids, after crashing into a car turning in front of me on my old Aprilia, ABS would have saved me probably. It's all very well saying learn to brake without locking up but try it when there's an obstacle giving you half a second to react.
Had the TC go off a few times on wet and gravel on the road with my S1000R, never really had a problem on the road where TC was necessary, but good to know its there.
Had the TC go off a few times on wet and gravel on the road with my S1000R, never really had a problem on the road where TC was necessary, but good to know its there.
carinaman said:
Do you have an NK450, the new small twin?
The MT - smallish adventure bike. Been very good so far. Put a 15 tooth front sprocket to lengthen the very short gearing, tall rally seat as it's otherwise quite low, bash plate is awaiting fitting and I'm not going anywhere very muddy yet as the tyres are Chinese Pirelli knock offs, although they've been fine so far on road. The engine is sweet and willing.
GM182 said:
The MT - smallish adventure bike. Been very good so far. Put a 15 tooth front sprocket to lengthen the very short gearing, tall rally seat as it's otherwise quite low, bash plate is awaiting fitting and I'm not going anywhere very muddy yet as the tyres are Chinese Pirelli knock offs, although they've been fine so far on road. The engine is sweet and willing.
I did a few detours last night and today after a curry and christmas shopping.......
The roads in Oxfordshire are f
king horrific at the moment albeit I didn't have any brown trouser moments with the Roadsmart 4s.
I do wonder how much traction control would flash if I had it on the 500 though.....
The roads in Oxfordshire are f
king horrific at the moment albeit I didn't have any brown trouser moments with the Roadsmart 4s.I do wonder how much traction control would flash if I had it on the 500 though.....
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