All It Wanted Was An Aston Badge
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408253...
Sitting yesterday with an old friend from the JDC who is considering the purchase of yet another E Type though sadly for me its not the enticing prospect it once was . This XK RS however is simply sublime and unlike the E Type has further to rise in value . Its an interesting thought that had it been blessed with an Aston badge instead of a Jaguar one it would already be close to £100k . Anyone any experience of the XK RS ?
Sitting yesterday with an old friend from the JDC who is considering the purchase of yet another E Type though sadly for me its not the enticing prospect it once was . This XK RS however is simply sublime and unlike the E Type has further to rise in value . Its an interesting thought that had it been blessed with an Aston badge instead of a Jaguar one it would already be close to £100k . Anyone any experience of the XK RS ?
reddiesel said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408253...
Sitting yesterday with an old friend from the JDC who is considering the purchase of yet another E Type though sadly for me its not the enticing prospect it once was . This XK RS however is simply sublime and unlike the E Type has further to rise in value . Its an interesting thought that had it been blessed with an Aston badge instead of a Jaguar one it would already be close to £100k . Anyone any experience of the XK RS ?
I had an XKR of that era which is what this is largely based upon. It's a big heavy platform but a nice comfortable cruiser.Sitting yesterday with an old friend from the JDC who is considering the purchase of yet another E Type though sadly for me its not the enticing prospect it once was . This XK RS however is simply sublime and unlike the E Type has further to rise in value . Its an interesting thought that had it been blessed with an Aston badge instead of a Jaguar one it would already be close to £100k . Anyone any experience of the XK RS ?
I'd wager this will be a hard sale at 50k and has scope to drop when theres a plethora of more powerful and better driving F Types to choose from with the same engine. If appreciation is the objective then a cheap F Type Cab, or a 6-17 V8 Vantage (especially a V12) would be a better place to put money.
bennno said:
I had an XKR of that era which is what this is largely based upon. It's a big heavy platform but a nice comfortable cruiser.
I'd wager this will be a hard sale at 50k and has scope to drop when theres a plethora of more powerful and better driving F Types to choose from with the same engine. If appreciation is the objective then a cheap F Type Cab, or a 6-17 V8 Vantage (especially a V12) would be a better place to put money.
Drop Benno ? The argument at the time as I remember was if it was worth the extra premium over the XKR which many didn't believe it was . There was talk of this and the XKR S GT above it attracting a new sort of Buyer to the brand and I think we can probably say that didn't happen either . An interesting footnote to Fords ownership of Jaguar but I have to possibly disagree with many when I say that in my view its a far more attractive shape than any F type I'd wager this will be a hard sale at 50k and has scope to drop when theres a plethora of more powerful and better driving F Types to choose from with the same engine. If appreciation is the objective then a cheap F Type Cab, or a 6-17 V8 Vantage (especially a V12) would be a better place to put money.
SS427 Camaro said:
For starters it Needs a manual box and a decent colour !
Black , Misano Red and French Blue I believe were the colours and possibly White . I certainly saw a white XKR S GT which I think was a horrible looking thing . Not too sure about the Box , I think there is a lot of purist claptrap written about manual boxes , it must have been the same when someone first put a saddle on a horse . Some anorak would have been standing at the side of the corral chastising everyone that preferred a saddle . Aesthetically it a gorgeous looking bruiser of a car, with the performance to match; unlike others I think the colour suits it, making it really stand out.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17627455
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17568814
Lovely though it is, £50,000 for a ten year old (albeit special) Jag, seems a bit rich.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17627455
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17568814
Lovely though it is, £50,000 for a ten year old (albeit special) Jag, seems a bit rich.
They need a whole lot more than an Aston badge.
Yes looks are subjective but to my eye it’s nowhere near as beat as an Aston.
The interior is cheap hard plastic by comparison too and lacks any kind of “specialness”
My neighbour and good buddy had one so I’ve studied them closely.
He now has an Aston and now admits the Jag was never going to be an Aston competitor
Yes looks are subjective but to my eye it’s nowhere near as beat as an Aston.
The interior is cheap hard plastic by comparison too and lacks any kind of “specialness”
My neighbour and good buddy had one so I’ve studied them closely.
He now has an Aston and now admits the Jag was never going to be an Aston competitor
Yes, my Dad has had an early 2011 Italian Racing Red RS since December 2019. He very graciously allows me to use it as and when I please, and last year I took the liberty to ask if I could take it to Germany for a weeks holiday to which he kindly agreed.
This allowed me to really get under the skin of the car and take it on the sort of trip it was designed for, a fast paced, long distance tour across Europe.
Put simply, I cannot think of another car in this price bracket I'd have enjoyed more on such a trip. It is very hushed at speed, there is a little bit of tyre noise as you'd expect with 295 section rear tyres but it's very well muted, wind noise is kept in check too even at high speed.
The stability at speed was superb, we spent a fair number of miles at well over 150mph and it felt very stable, it's clear that someone at Jaguar spent a lot of development miles making sure it feels as planted as it does. My only possible gripe is that while the brakes never faded even from repeated high speeds they don't quite wipe off the speed as fast as I would expect, though I'm spoilt having also driven cars with modern 6+ pot calipers and ceramic brakes.
As well as motorway trips, we drove the car in big city centres (Stuttgart, Munich and Nancy on the way back home), and also a very fun road called the D994 from just outside of Bar le Duc towards La Cheppe. The car feels at home on fast, winding roads and city centres as it does on the motorway. The damping, while a little firm around town is never uncomfortable or unforgiving, but gives the car great stability and decent agility at speed.
The engine is the star turn, it really suits the character of the car. I can confirm it pulls very well all the way up to the limited top speed of 186mph without much fuss. I believe that a great GT car should have a V12 engine in it, but I could not imagine this car with any other engine in it. The sound in dynamic mode is addictive at any speed, in fact it gives you far too many reasons to nail it on pretty much every stretch of road that will allow you to do so. Despite this, we still managed around 22mpg on the trip which considering how it was driven seemed fair, if not astounding.
In the 5 years Dad had it (probably about 10k miles in that time), it has required nothing except servicing and tyres. WRT fit and finish, it doesn't have a single sqeak or rattle, and everything works just as it did the day it left the factory. It's a little different inside from an XKR, you get a leather headliner and the fancy seats (extremely comfortable I may add). Even at 14 years old, the interior still smells brand new.
I'm not a huge fan of the infotainment screen, or some of the buttons that surround it. However it is all logical, and there are physical buttons. It's very much of the period, so it doesn't overly bother me. Sit in a McLaren SLR and you'll realise the Jag isn't actually that bad
To me, this car embodies what Jaguar is all about. I know that to others this may vary, but to me a Jaguar must look right, sound great, excellent ride and handling balance, represent value for money (although I would argue that wasn't the case when this car was new), and it should have two very distinct characters, one of which you should never always trust. This very much has these qualities.
At the risk of upsetting those who worship Aston Martin, I don't think this car needs an Aston badge at all, for me it's all the better for having a Jaguar badge.
This allowed me to really get under the skin of the car and take it on the sort of trip it was designed for, a fast paced, long distance tour across Europe.
Put simply, I cannot think of another car in this price bracket I'd have enjoyed more on such a trip. It is very hushed at speed, there is a little bit of tyre noise as you'd expect with 295 section rear tyres but it's very well muted, wind noise is kept in check too even at high speed.
The stability at speed was superb, we spent a fair number of miles at well over 150mph and it felt very stable, it's clear that someone at Jaguar spent a lot of development miles making sure it feels as planted as it does. My only possible gripe is that while the brakes never faded even from repeated high speeds they don't quite wipe off the speed as fast as I would expect, though I'm spoilt having also driven cars with modern 6+ pot calipers and ceramic brakes.
As well as motorway trips, we drove the car in big city centres (Stuttgart, Munich and Nancy on the way back home), and also a very fun road called the D994 from just outside of Bar le Duc towards La Cheppe. The car feels at home on fast, winding roads and city centres as it does on the motorway. The damping, while a little firm around town is never uncomfortable or unforgiving, but gives the car great stability and decent agility at speed.
The engine is the star turn, it really suits the character of the car. I can confirm it pulls very well all the way up to the limited top speed of 186mph without much fuss. I believe that a great GT car should have a V12 engine in it, but I could not imagine this car with any other engine in it. The sound in dynamic mode is addictive at any speed, in fact it gives you far too many reasons to nail it on pretty much every stretch of road that will allow you to do so. Despite this, we still managed around 22mpg on the trip which considering how it was driven seemed fair, if not astounding.
In the 5 years Dad had it (probably about 10k miles in that time), it has required nothing except servicing and tyres. WRT fit and finish, it doesn't have a single sqeak or rattle, and everything works just as it did the day it left the factory. It's a little different inside from an XKR, you get a leather headliner and the fancy seats (extremely comfortable I may add). Even at 14 years old, the interior still smells brand new.
I'm not a huge fan of the infotainment screen, or some of the buttons that surround it. However it is all logical, and there are physical buttons. It's very much of the period, so it doesn't overly bother me. Sit in a McLaren SLR and you'll realise the Jag isn't actually that bad
To me, this car embodies what Jaguar is all about. I know that to others this may vary, but to me a Jaguar must look right, sound great, excellent ride and handling balance, represent value for money (although I would argue that wasn't the case when this car was new), and it should have two very distinct characters, one of which you should never always trust. This very much has these qualities.
At the risk of upsetting those who worship Aston Martin, I don't think this car needs an Aston badge at all, for me it's all the better for having a Jaguar badge.
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