Obesity needs new definition, says global report
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79dz14d30ro
There is a risk too many people are being diagnosed as obese when "a more accurate" and "nuanced" definition is needed, a report from global experts, external says.
In other words, loads of patients are asking for weight loss drugs and we cannot afford it
There is a risk too many people are being diagnosed as obese when "a more accurate" and "nuanced" definition is needed, a report from global experts, external says.
In other words, loads of patients are asking for weight loss drugs and we cannot afford it
272BHP said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79dz14d30ro
There is a risk too many people are being diagnosed as obese when "a more accurate" and "nuanced" definition is needed, a report from global experts, external says.
In other words, loads of patients are asking for weight loss drugs and we cannot afford it
How to fix waiting lists...redefine what be a fit greedy lazy fThere is a risk too many people are being diagnosed as obese when "a more accurate" and "nuanced" definition is needed, a report from global experts, external says.
In other words, loads of patients are asking for weight loss drugs and we cannot afford it
k is. Can't see any problems with that...cough brushing under carpet coughATG said:
Is this really just "BMI is crap" again? At a population level it's a useful measure. At the level of the individual it is really crude. There's nothing new here.
It can't be useful at population level if it's inaccurate at individual level surely?If a person carries any sort of noticeable muscle mass, it isn't accurate iirc.
daveco said:
ATG said:
Is this really just "BMI is crap" again? At a population level it's a useful measure. At the level of the individual it is really crude. There's nothing new here.
It can't be useful at population level if it's inaccurate at individual level surely?If you roll a die once you'll get a number between 1 and 6. What's your best estimate of the average score of that die? It'll be whatever number you just rolled and that's clearly really inaccurate.
If instead you roll 1000 dice and take the average score, it's going to be almost exactly 3.5.
It's the same thing with BMI. If you have a large sample size of people, the overestimation of lardiness caused by short muscly people will get cancelled out by the underestimation caused by tall, weedy, fatsos. For a large sample size BMI statistics can tell you something useful about the fatness in the population as a whole, while still telling you not much about any one individual.
daveco said:
ATG said:
Is this really just "BMI is crap" again? At a population level it's a useful measure. At the level of the individual it is really crude. There's nothing new here.
It can't be useful at population level if it's inaccurate at individual level surely?If a person carries any sort of noticeable muscle mass, it isn't accurate iirc.
All that said yes I suspect muscle mass is impacting my BMI but I don't dismiss it as a waste of time of an excuse to not train. At 46 I have resting heart rate of 57 and Low blood pressure.
As I said belly fat is more than I need so I don't dismiss what BMI shows me when clearly I can improve.
272BHP said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79dz14d30ro
There is a risk too many people are being diagnosed as obese when "a more accurate" and "nuanced" definition is needed, a report from global experts, external says.
In other words, loads of patients are asking for weight loss drugs and we cannot afford it
People not obese according to BMI may be obese by body fat or health symptoms so BMI can be wrong in both directions ie under as well as over reporting. There is a risk too many people are being diagnosed as obese when "a more accurate" and "nuanced" definition is needed, a report from global experts, external says.
In other words, loads of patients are asking for weight loss drugs and we cannot afford it
BMI is just a warning flag - but still a fairly accurate one - of risk of health problems from obesity.
Bill said:
Society has normalised obesity.
Mainly because you aren't allowed to bully fat people anymore! 
If you were allowed to wind down your window and give a rendition of "who ate all the pies" whenever you saw some heap of human excrement waddling along or on their f
king NHS funded mobility scooters for fat fks. I think it would do more for UK health than any silly drugs!BunkMoreland said:
Bill said:
Society has normalised obesity.
Mainly because you aren't allowed to bully fat people anymore! If you were allowed to wind down your window and give a rendition of "who ate all the pies" whenever you saw some heap of human excrement waddling along or on their f
king NHS funded mobility scooters for fat fks. I think it would do more for UK health than any silly drugs!Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff