RE: A Toyota Hilux wins Dakar; Ford third on first try
RE: A Toyota Hilux wins Dakar; Ford third on first try
Friday 17th January 2025

A Toyota Hilux wins Dakar; Ford third on first try

Gazoo Racing took a big contingent to Saudi this year - but it couldn't beat the local lad...


After two weeks of gruelling competition - which has seen more than a few household names come a cropper - Yazeed Al Rajhi has won the 2025 Dakar in a privately entered Toyota Hilux. It’s the first time a native has won the event when it’s been held in Saudi Arabia, surely a point of note as the country aims to further its motorsport standing across the globe.  

There were notable finishes throughout the top order in fact, with another factory entered Hilux of Henk Lategan coming home second, just under four minutes behind Al Rajhi. It was looking like the South African’s Dakar this year, only for a couple of less impressive days to drop him from the lead. Ford will leave Saudi chuffed with a podium place at its first attempt, Mattias Ekstrom finishing third in the Ranger T1+ with a Coyote-evolved V8.

The Dacia Sandriders, coming into the event full of confidence after such a good display in Morocco at the end of last year, could only manage fourth with five-time winner Nasser Al-Attiyah. In a punishing event, those Ultimate category cars were the top four, with another M-Sport Ford of Mitch Guthrie in fifth, an hour off the lead. 

With stage wins across the event and strong drives from its entire team, Ford will be impressed with its Dakar performance. That top-five finish from Guthrie was especially notable in his first Dakar, and lending help to teammate Carlos Sainz Sr. after an early roll was ‘an extraordinary demonstration of grit and teamwork.’ Ford and British team M-Sport of course have a rich rallying history together, though something like Dakar represents a very different challenge. To have achieved a podium at the first time of asking will surely go down very well at a firm which has announced that it would like to be the 'Porsche of off-road'. 

“We have had some real highs and some real lows during this incredible race,” said Matthew Wilson, Team Principal of Team Ford M-Sport. “Losing Carlos so early on in the race and the bitter disappointment for Nani (Roma) with his issues, was tough for the team but we rallied around Matthias and Mitch and ultimately delivered a podium and two cars in the top five which, in our first full outing with the Ford Raptor T1+, is a great start to the whole program. It’s been a hell of an experience – the team has been incredible over the last three weeks but now we focus on the rest of the Rally Raid season ahead with renewed enthusiasm and confidence.”

The World Rally Raid Championship now moves onto Abu Dhabi for the Desert Challenge in February, before moving to Africa and Europe for the rest of the season. It promises to be one to watch, with Dacia hoping to recapture some of last year’s form, Ford wanting to build on its Saudi success and Hiluxes never out of contention - with full factory support or independently entered, clearly. 


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yme402

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655 posts

131 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.

The Pistonsdead

7,001 posts

236 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Yes their methods are controversial. But congratulations to Toyota for winning.

AmyRichardson

1,972 posts

71 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
That and I my enthusiasm is further dulled by it being a silhouette ("marketing to idiots") class.

spikyone

1,912 posts

129 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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AmyRichardson said:
That and I my enthusiasm is further dulled by it being a silhouette ("marketing to idiots") class.
SuperGT/JGTC, old DTM, Thundersaloons, Group 5... all for idiots? What a daft comment. Silhouette series have produced some spectacular and iconic racing cars, and often incredible racing.

Sway

35,068 posts

223 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Aiui, there's also plenty of classes catering to 'modified production' cars as well as the top tier Ultimate class?

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

223 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Given your slant in these comments, what do you make of a nation that has invaded 173 other countries (roughly 90% of every country on the planet)?

Rusty Old-Banger

7,657 posts

242 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Given your slant in these comments, what do you make of a nation that has invaded 173 other countries (roughly 90% of every country on the planet)?
Rule Britannia!

CLK-GTR

1,756 posts

274 months

Friday 17th January 2025
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Putting the politics aside, I wish they'd stop calling it the Dakar.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
yawn

jzakariya

189 posts

147 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Not a fan of Saudi Arabia, quite the opposite in fact, but what a stupid comment. Where is your indignation when western countries, their allies and their lackies commit genocidal acts all over the world. Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Libya, the Yemen being recent examples that come to mind. If you're ignorant, keep quiet. Thank You.

More importantly, well done to Toyota. That Hilux would look so cool on the street. :-)

jzakariya

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Saturday 18th January 2025
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CLK-GTR said:
Putting the politics aside, I wish they'd stop calling it the Dakar.
+1. Agree. They should name it something else.

AmyRichardson

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Saturday 18th January 2025
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spikyone said:
AmyRichardson said:
That and I my enthusiasm is further dulled by it being a silhouette ("marketing to idiots") class.
SuperGT/JGTC, old DTM, Thundersaloons, Group 5... all for idiots? What a daft comment. Silhouette series have produced some spectacular and iconic racing cars, and often incredible racing.
It's not that silhouette series can't make for good racing.

However, manufacturer involvement relies on that involvement having a marketing value, and the allure (for them) and extra-value of silhouette series (compared to, say, a sport prototype series) is the more obvious link between their market products and race success. However, one would have to be foolish to swallow that "sell" because the link between TMC (never mind an actual Hilux!) and the winning entry is no more than a contract and a sack of money.


Biggles111

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292 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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I've had the pleasure of literally bumping into the rally twice over the least few weeks whilst working out in the desert here in Saudi. There is some properly testing terrain, and it's a massive country, most importantly this is a country that loves motorsport. It's also a country that is changing for the better incredibly fast.

A couple of photos below. Highlight for me was when driving back to Riyadh earlier this week the Dakar Classic cars were on the freeway heading back to town, no pics of that but was like wacky races, everything from rally Porsches through to baja style buggies, pretty cool to see and hear just on the road alongside us.





spikyone

1,912 posts

129 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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AmyRichardson said:
spikyone said:
AmyRichardson said:
That and I my enthusiasm is further dulled by it being a silhouette ("marketing to idiots") class.
SuperGT/JGTC, old DTM, Thundersaloons, Group 5... all for idiots? What a daft comment. Silhouette series have produced some spectacular and iconic racing cars, and often incredible racing.
It's not that silhouette series can't make for good racing.

However, manufacturer involvement relies on that involvement having a marketing value, and the allure (for them) and extra-value of silhouette series (compared to, say, a sport prototype series) is the more obvious link between their market products and race success. However, one would have to be foolish to swallow that "sell" because the link between TMC (never mind an actual Hilux!) and the winning entry is no more than a contract and a sack of money.
Teaching granny to suck eggs. We all know it's purely a branding exercise and that it's not anything like the road going Hilux, any more than a SuperGT Supra was similar to a road going Supra.

Apparently it needs spelling out to you that the reason Toyota do it is for brand awareness. Toyota want to publicise that they have a model called the Hilux. They also want to showcase their engineering expertise: their ability to build a vehicle that's fast and incredibly durable (and that has, in the past, transferred to road use - the 2UR-GSE V8 was used in a previous generation Dakar Hilux, for example). They're not saying "this rally raid truck is the new Hilux", and neither does anyone that would pay attention to the results of Dakar believe that's the case.

100SRV

2,370 posts

271 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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spikyone said:
Teaching granny to suck eggs. We all know it's purely a branding exercise and that it's not anything like the road going Hilux, any more than a SuperGT Supra was similar to a road going Supra.

Apparently it needs spelling out to you that the reason Toyota do it is for brand awareness. Toyota want to publicise that they have a model called the Hilux. They also want to showcase their engineering expertise: their ability to build a vehicle that's fast and incredibly durable (and that has, in the past, transferred to road use - the 2UR-GSE V8 was used in a previous generation Dakar Hilux, for example). They're not saying "this rally raid truck is the new Hilux", and neither does anyone that would pay attention to the results of Dakar believe that's the case.
Putting all that aside, consider the efforts of the competitors to finish the event, the only other competitions I can think of in a similar league (human and machine) are the Vendee Globe and similar. The privateer motorcyclists are really impressive - twelve days of competition with minimal backup, servicing their machines when they get to the bivouac then getting up the next day to do it all again. The distances covered in a day exceed most formula one races and they don't get to drive the same corner tens of times. Have a look at the Classic class too - those vehicles have more in common with their namesakes and modifications are more limited.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Was it held in Britain? Or Holland? Portugal, Spain? Ireland? Germany? Israel? All countries who have had to weather various storms of sectarianism before becoming more inclusive and understanding. Could 'sportswashing' in fact be a step towards a less brutal, more inclusive society, or do we just shun 'backwards' nations and alppw them to get on with things whilst muttering behind our curtains, tutting and practicing indignation from the safety of our sofas whilst selling them weapons and technology and buying natural resources without an ethical tremor...?

CH80

424 posts

26 months

Saturday 18th January 2025
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jzakariya said:
yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Not a fan of Saudi Arabia, quite the opposite in fact, but what a stupid comment. Where is your indignation when western countries, their allies and their lackies commit genocidal acts all over the world. Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Libya, the Yemen being recent examples that come to mind. If you're ignorant, keep quiet. Thank You.

More importantly, well done to Toyota. That Hilux would look so cool on the street. :-)
Have to agree with zakaria. We have to be mindful of righteous indignation. On to the point of the Article, can you watch the Dakar on any channel?

Richspec

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279 months

Sunday 19th January 2025
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Been watching this the past two weeks as a friend of mine is there with M Sport. We've watched it every night on Youtube, theres loads of footage, I think Eurosport was the home for it in the past on 'normal' channels.

AmyRichardson

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71 months

Sunday 19th January 2025
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biggbn said:
yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Was it held in Britain? Or Holland? Portugal, Spain? Ireland? Germany? Israel? All countries who have had to weather various storms of sectarianism before becoming more inclusive and understanding. Could 'sportswashing' in fact be a step towards a less brutal, more inclusive society, or do we just shun 'backwards' nations and alppw them to get on with things whilst muttering behind our curtains, tutting and practicing indignation from the safety of our sofas whilst selling them weapons and technology and buying natural resources without an ethical tremor...?
Regimes in the ME & Central Asia don't sports wash on the understanding that it's part of the road to constitutional reform - they do it to cement their regimes in power.

The aspiration is to show us that place - which we might otherwise only know through reports of human right abuses, political oppression and meme-worth corruption stories - being normal and doing stuff we do. Thus maybe, just maybe, when we think of them the horrible politics isn't the first thing that comes to mind - or at least it isn't the only thing.

That and a generous hosing of money brings influential international mouthpieces (FIFA, IOC) on-side and saying the things they want said - not least the shill's favourite "keep politics out of sport."


anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 19th January 2025
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AmyRichardson said:
biggbn said:
yme402 said:
Can’t get excited about any event in a country that brutally executes people for not following a religious teaching.
Was it held in Britain? Or Holland? Portugal, Spain? Ireland? Germany? Israel? All countries who have had to weather various storms of sectarianism before becoming more inclusive and understanding. Could 'sportswashing' in fact be a step towards a less brutal, more inclusive society, or do we just shun 'backwards' nations and alppw them to get on with things whilst muttering behind our curtains, tutting and practicing indignation from the safety of our sofas whilst selling them weapons and technology and buying natural resources without an ethical tremor...?
Regimes in the ME & Central Asia don't sports wash on the understanding that it's part of the road to constitutional reform - they do it to cement their regimes in power.

The aspiration is to show us that place - which we might otherwise only know through reports of human right abuses, political oppression and meme-worth corruption stories - being normal and doing stuff we do. Thus maybe, just maybe, when we think of them the horrible politics isn't the first thing that comes to mind - or at least it isn't the only thing.

That and a generous hosing of money brings influential international mouthpieces (FIFA, IOC) on-side and saying the things they want said - not least the shill's favourite "keep politics out of sport."
Whilst all this may be true, I repeat my point. If this is a tentative step onto a ladder of respectability, should we ignore it...even ignoring the hypocrisy of the business we do with these regimes, surely it IS better to 'normalise' and demystify them whilst ensuring that if the world's magnifying glass is upon them, their conduct must improve. It also shows women and minorities in this country the way things can be elsewhere. Change does not happen overnight, evolution not revolution. To assume that the 'west' and its transformation and continued journey from a collection of religiously shackled societies is arrogant and insular beyond belief...