Unlocked Defibrillator, how long until...

[MattsCar]

...it is pinched after installation.

To set the picture.

West midlands. Just outside of the town centre. Installed on a wall outside on the pavement. Lets call the area "Vibrant". No CCTV covering the area.

I'd love to have more faith in humanity, but I am a cynic.

Reason that it will be unlocked is that it is part of the agreement from the charity donating it.

[FWIW]

Which town centre?

[MattsCar]

Coventry.

[CCCS]

If it were here in Nottingham then minutes.

[FWIW]

MattsCar said:

Coventry.

Not long!

[Alorotom]

I thought that (legally) they had to be locked for standard HSE and when you call 999 they provide the code to unlock it.

I’m a little surprised that it wouldn’t have to be locked 24/7.

[MattsCar]

Alorotom said:

I thought that (legally) they had to be locked for standard HSE and when you call 999 they provide the code to unlock it.

I’m a little surprised that it wouldn’t have to be locked 24/7.

[mcdjl]

Having been looking into this the theft rates are very, very low. The black market for then isn't great, and what else will you do with it? They're not fun to discharge like a fire extinguisher so there's very little point.

[MattsCar]

CCCS and FWIW my thoughts exactly.

I can see this as an absolute ball ache in the making.

The lovely community who is providing it, is having to pay a not so small amount to install (underground cabling etc).

[MattsCar]

mcdjl said:

Having been looking into this the theft rates are very, very low. The black market for then isn't great, and what else will you do with it? They're not fun to discharge like a fire extinguisher so there's very little point.

Let's hope you are correct. However, A LOT are being pinched round here, even if they have to be crowbarred off the wall.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/in-your-area/amb...

[bloomen]

Surely defibrillating yourself in the temples is a cheap thrill on the way back from a night out?

That being the case, I think it'll become a popular fixture.

[MattsCar]

bloomen said:

Surely defibrillating yourself in the temples is a cheap thrill on the way back from a night out?

That being the case, I think it'll become a popular fixture.

This is the other thing lol.

Might not be pinched, but someone might just try something like that. I really would not put it past people.

[tegwin]

MattsCar said:

bloomen said:

Surely defibrillating yourself in the temples is a cheap thrill on the way back from a night out?

That being the case, I think it'll become a popular fixture.

This is the other thing lol.

Might not be pinched, but someone might just try something like that. I really would not put it past people.

A lot of the modern defibs only fire if they detect a need for a shock in the patient. You can’t just put the electrodes on and press the shock button for a cheap kick.

[Hammer67]

MattsCar said:

bloomen said:

Surely defibrillating yourself in the temples is a cheap thrill on the way back from a night out?

That being the case, I think it'll become a popular fixture.

This is the other thing lol.

Might not be pinched, but someone might just try something like that. I really would not put it past people.

The defib we installed at my cricket club will only fire once attached correctly to the patient and it detects in the patient the need for it. You can`t just press a button and fire it.

[CCCS]

Scumbags steal from ambulances on calls and outside A & E, they’ll steal anything even if there’s no market for the thing they steal.

[Evanivitch]

MattsCar said:

bloomen said:

Surely defibrillating yourself in the temples is a cheap thrill on the way back from a night out?

That being the case, I think it'll become a popular fixture.

This is the other thing lol.

Might not be pinched, but someone might just try something like that. I really would not put it past people.

Modern defibs don't work like that.

[BossHogg]

I'm a guardian for 2 of our local public access defibrillators, the logic behind the cabinets being unlocked is for quicker access when they're needed, vital minutes were being lost contacting the ambulance service to get the cabinet code then entering the code, then accessing the cabinet, grabbing the defib. This way, you can get the defib faster and pads on patient quicker.

[Hoofy]

Is it still there?

[BossHogg]

Both are still there untouched, when they get deployed, the attending ambulance crew takes it back to the station, I get an email to say it's been used, I visit the station, fit fresh pads and put it back in the cabinet ready for the next person.

[mdw]

I can see the point. At new years eve I had to access our local one. We have rubbish mobile reception in the village and if my phone was not connected to the village hall WiFi I would have had problems. As it was it took 60 seconds from dialing 999 to opening the door due to the conversation with 999 people.