Water softener advice

[dba7108]

I had a bwt softener which seemed to get through salt at a very high rate. I'm now looking to replace with either one of these. Any views on either of these?

[johnoz]

Aqua nano is not a softener, have removed a few for people who thought they were.

Sumo, probably just as bad as the BWT to be honest.

It does depend a lot on where you live and water hardness.

A Hauge 410 is a good economy machine US built and not the many that come from china.

Web site in my profile if you need any more info.

[Somebody]

johnoz said:

A Hauge 410 is a good economy machine US built

Did you mean Hague? Also is it different to the Hague Maximizer 410? If it's the same device I wouldn't call it an "economy" machine?

[johnoz]

Somebody said:

Did you mean Hague? Also is it different to the Hague Maximizer 410? If it's the same device I wouldn't call it an "economy" machine?

Yes the very same machine, (just a slip in the spelling)

Economy in terms of salt usage than in terms of buying.

[Somebody]

Ah, I see. For a house of 4, we use a 25kg bag of salt every 3 and a half month or so. What would a high salt usage machine consume compared to the Hague?

[johnoz]

Somebody said:

Ah, I see. For a house of 4, we use a 25kg bag of salt every 3 and a half month or so. What would a high salt usage machine consume compared to the Hague?

There are many factors to working that out.
Water hardness
Water usage
Also many people never have there softeners set correctly, run them with the wrong hardness setting eeks out the salt usage but you dont get 100% soft water all the time.

[southerndriver]

johnoz said:

Also many people never have there softeners set correctly, run them with the wrong hardness setting eeks out the salt usage but you dont get 100% soft water all the time.

Curious about this comment as I've had a Harveys machine for years which seems to work fine and doesn't, to my knowledge, have any user settings on it

[kambites]

southerndriver said:

johnoz said:

Also many people never have there softeners set correctly, run them with the wrong hardness setting eeks out the salt usage but you dont get 100% soft water all the time.

Curious about this comment as I've had a Harveys machine for years which seems to work fine and doesn't, to my knowledge, have any user settings on it

They vary, but ours measures how much water flows through it and "regenerates" after a certain amount has been used. The amount of water between regens is programmable and needs to be set to the correct value for the hardness of the water flowing through it. Ours came with a test kit thing to measure the hardness; once you know the hardness, you can set it in the control unit thing and it will adjust how frequently it regens.

I guess some of the posher machines might measure the hardness automatically some how?

Edited by kambites on Monday 27th January 19:17

[johnoz]

southerndriver said:

johnoz said:

Also many people never have there softeners set correctly, run them with the wrong hardness setting eeks out the salt usage but you dont get 100% soft water all the time.

Curious about this comment as I've had a Harveys machine for years which seems to work fine and doesn't, to my knowledge, have any user settings on it

That's because the Harveys machines are all factory set and you buy or be sold the right one for the area you live in.

Over the years they have ranged from 500, 750, 870 9??, 1000 1050 1200 1500 litres

Most common one is a 750 look on the top of yours and see what number is says in the service box!

[johnoz]

kambites said:

southerndriver said:

johnoz said:

Also many people never have there softeners set correctly, run them with the wrong hardness setting eeks out the salt usage but you dont get 100% soft water all the time.

Curious about this comment as I've had a Harveys machine for years which seems to work fine and doesn't, to my knowledge, have any user settings on it

They vary, but ours measures how much water flows through it and "regenerates" after a certain amount has been used. The amount of water between regens is programmable and needs to be set to the correct value for the hardness of the water flowing through it. Ours came with a test kit thing to measure the hardness; once you know the hardness, you can set it in the control unit thing and it will adjust how frequently it regens.

I guess some of the posher machines might measure the hardness automatically some how?

Edited by kambites on Monday 27th January 19:17

Don't think there are any that measure the hardness on input as yet, they all have to be told how hard the water is.

Yes depending on the volume of resin in the machine it will soften a certain amount of litres at a given hardness,

Tell your machine is not as hard as it is will result in the resin becoming full and then will no longer soften till a regen happens again.