RTC today. Police witness, contact?
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Evening all,
Involved in a minor collision today. Queuing traffic up to a T junction. Traffic is moving slowly and we are moving with it (Literally less than walking pace).
Police car on blues turns going in the opposite direction but unfortunately at this time a bloke in a Nissan Navara has obviously got fed up of waiting and decided to overtake all the queuing cars (No idea where he thought he could go!) and is on a head on course with the Police car, cue an emergency stop from the Police car and the Navara swerves back into the correct lane but we happened to be in the space he aimed for.
Took our front corner damaging the wing, bumper, alloy, wheel, wheel arch lining and I hope just knocked the alignment out as after it isn’t quiet handling right. No injuries as we were at a standstill and he was less than 10mph.
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Guy who hit us was clearly driving like an idiot and to be fair held his hands up so I’m not interested in complaining about his poor driving, just want my car fixing but, to cover all the bases, should I contact the Police and ask if the Officer would be willing to provide a statement for our insurers if that is even an option?
Police Car was a Skoda Octavia Estate so assume traffic so should have a camera too which could add another perspective to it. I didn’t expect the Police to stop, they were obviously going to something more serious than abit of bent metal.
Involved in a minor collision today. Queuing traffic up to a T junction. Traffic is moving slowly and we are moving with it (Literally less than walking pace).
Police car on blues turns going in the opposite direction but unfortunately at this time a bloke in a Nissan Navara has obviously got fed up of waiting and decided to overtake all the queuing cars (No idea where he thought he could go!) and is on a head on course with the Police car, cue an emergency stop from the Police car and the Navara swerves back into the correct lane but we happened to be in the space he aimed for.
Took our front corner damaging the wing, bumper, alloy, wheel, wheel arch lining and I hope just knocked the alignment out as after it isn’t quiet handling right. No injuries as we were at a standstill and he was less than 10mph.
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Guy who hit us was clearly driving like an idiot and to be fair held his hands up so I’m not interested in complaining about his poor driving, just want my car fixing but, to cover all the bases, should I contact the Police and ask if the Officer would be willing to provide a statement for our insurers if that is even an option?
Police Car was a Skoda Octavia Estate so assume traffic so should have a camera too which could add another perspective to it. I didn’t expect the Police to stop, they were obviously going to something more serious than abit of bent metal.
Edited by CoreyDog on Saturday 15th February 20:42
Greendubber said:
Technically (IMHO) it's a POLAC (police accident)
Contact the force, tell them where and when and if you've got the reg of the police car give it to the and they should be able to trace the driver.
Managed to get the reg from the dashcam footage which is time stamped. Contact the force, tell them where and when and if you've got the reg of the police car give it to the and they should be able to trace the driver.
I just didn’t know if it’s something that would be even possible or if it’s worthwhile.
Whilst the Police didn't stop as were on the way to 'a job' they are likely to have called in over the radio to Control to say they'd just witnessed your collision so if you ring the Force covering the area giving them the time and location they'll probably find info from their command and control system to help your insurance claim if the other driver has a 'change of heart' over admitting liability.
CoreyDog said:
Evening all,
Involved in a minor collision today. Queuing traffic up to a T junction. Traffic is moving slowly and we are moving with it (Literally less than walking pace).
Police car on blues turns going in the opposite direction but unfortunately at this time a bloke in a Nissan Navara has obviously got fed up of waiting and decided to overtake all the queuing cars (No idea where he thought he could go!) and is on a head on course with the Police car, cue an emergency stop from the Police car and the Navara swerves back into the correct lane but we happened to be in the space he aimed for.
Took our front corner damaging the wing, bumper, alloy, wheel, wheel arch lining and I hope just knocked the alignment out as after it isn’t quiet handling right. No injuries as we were at a standstill and he was less than 10mph.
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Guy who hit us was clearly driving like an idiot and to be fair held his hands up so I’m not interested in complaining about his poor driving, just want my car fixing but, to cover all the bases, should I contact the Police and ask if the Officer would be willing to provide a statement for our insurers if that is even an option?
Police Car was a Skoda Octavia Estate so assume traffic so should have a camera too which could add another perspective to it. I didn’t expect the Police to stop, they were obviously going to something more serious than abit of bent metal.
Involved in a minor collision today. Queuing traffic up to a T junction. Traffic is moving slowly and we are moving with it (Literally less than walking pace).
Police car on blues turns going in the opposite direction but unfortunately at this time a bloke in a Nissan Navara has obviously got fed up of waiting and decided to overtake all the queuing cars (No idea where he thought he could go!) and is on a head on course with the Police car, cue an emergency stop from the Police car and the Navara swerves back into the correct lane but we happened to be in the space he aimed for.
Took our front corner damaging the wing, bumper, alloy, wheel, wheel arch lining and I hope just knocked the alignment out as after it isn’t quiet handling right. No injuries as we were at a standstill and he was less than 10mph.
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Guy who hit us was clearly driving like an idiot and to be fair held his hands up so I’m not interested in complaining about his poor driving, just want my car fixing but, to cover all the bases, should I contact the Police and ask if the Officer would be willing to provide a statement for our insurers if that is even an option?
Police Car was a Skoda Octavia Estate so assume traffic so should have a camera too which could add another perspective to it. I didn’t expect the Police to stop, they were obviously going to something more serious than abit of bent metal.
CoreyDog said:
Evening all,
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
So what are you worrying about? Relax, and let the insurance company sort it out.Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Sebring440 said:
CoreyDog said:
Evening all,
Involved in a minor collision today. Queuing traffic up to a T junction. Traffic is moving slowly and we are moving with it (Literally less than walking pace).
Police car on blues turns going in the opposite direction but unfortunately at this time a bloke in a Nissan Navara has obviously got fed up of waiting and decided to overtake all the queuing cars (No idea where he thought he could go!) and is on a head on course with the Police car, cue an emergency stop from the Police car and the Navara swerves back into the correct lane but we happened to be in the space he aimed for.
Took our front corner damaging the wing, bumper, alloy, wheel, wheel arch lining and I hope just knocked the alignment out as after it isn’t quiet handling right. No injuries as we were at a standstill and he was less than 10mph.
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Guy who hit us was clearly driving like an idiot and to be fair held his hands up so I’m not interested in complaining about his poor driving, just want my car fixing but, to cover all the bases, should I contact the Police and ask if the Officer would be willing to provide a statement for our insurers if that is even an option?
Police Car was a Skoda Octavia Estate so assume traffic so should have a camera too which could add another perspective to it. I didn’t expect the Police to stop, they were obviously going to something more serious than abit of bent metal.
Involved in a minor collision today. Queuing traffic up to a T junction. Traffic is moving slowly and we are moving with it (Literally less than walking pace).
Police car on blues turns going in the opposite direction but unfortunately at this time a bloke in a Nissan Navara has obviously got fed up of waiting and decided to overtake all the queuing cars (No idea where he thought he could go!) and is on a head on course with the Police car, cue an emergency stop from the Police car and the Navara swerves back into the correct lane but we happened to be in the space he aimed for.
Took our front corner damaging the wing, bumper, alloy, wheel, wheel arch lining and I hope just knocked the alignment out as after it isn’t quiet handling right. No injuries as we were at a standstill and he was less than 10mph.
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Guy who hit us was clearly driving like an idiot and to be fair held his hands up so I’m not interested in complaining about his poor driving, just want my car fixing but, to cover all the bases, should I contact the Police and ask if the Officer would be willing to provide a statement for our insurers if that is even an option?
Police Car was a Skoda Octavia Estate so assume traffic so should have a camera too which could add another perspective to it. I didn’t expect the Police to stop, they were obviously going to something more serious than abit of bent metal.
CoreyDog said:
Evening all,
Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
So what are you worrying about? Relax, and let the insurance company sort it out.Luckily have it all on dashcam and it’s fairly clear cut. Contacted the insurer who say will recover the car Monday to their repairer.
Sebring440 said:
So what are you worrying about? Relax, and let the insurance company sort it out.
Probably from reading too many horror stories on here over the years but I’d rather cross all the Ts, dot all the Is and wrap it up in a bow so I don’t end up getting stung if the other drivers memory suddenly changes or his insurance company start playing silly buggers.Thank you to all above for the advice, didn’t even consider it may have already been logged.
Greendubber said:
Technically (IMHO) it's a POLAC (police accident)
Contact the force, tell them where and when and if you've got the reg of the police car give it to the and they should be able to trace the driver.
Yeah, that's a 'vicinity POLAC' and the police should have stopped, regardless of what they were going to. Contact the force, tell them where and when and if you've got the reg of the police car give it to the and they should be able to trace the driver.
Morning,
So after sleeping on it, have decided for now not to contact them.
I don’t want to see the other driver looked into by the Police, we all make mistakes and I assume the Police would want the footage from us and could end up prosecuting him. Also if it is a Police Incident and the Police driver didn’t stop, don’t want him potentially getting a ticking off either as not his fault at all.
I’ve got everything saved and my insurer haven’t asked for any details of the Police car yet, if they do ask then it will be taken out of my hands but at the moment I don’t want to open that can of worms.
So after sleeping on it, have decided for now not to contact them.
I don’t want to see the other driver looked into by the Police, we all make mistakes and I assume the Police would want the footage from us and could end up prosecuting him. Also if it is a Police Incident and the Police driver didn’t stop, don’t want him potentially getting a ticking off either as not his fault at all.
I’ve got everything saved and my insurer haven’t asked for any details of the Police car yet, if they do ask then it will be taken out of my hands but at the moment I don’t want to open that can of worms.
CoreyDog said:
Morning,
So after sleeping on it, have decided for now not to contact them.
I don’t want to see the other driver looked into by the Police, we all make mistakes and I assume the Police would want the footage from us and could end up prosecuting him. Also if it is a Police Incident and the Police driver didn’t stop, don’t want him potentially getting a ticking off either as not his fault at all.
I’ve got everything saved and my insurer haven’t asked for any details of the Police car yet, if they do ask then it will be taken out of my hands but at the moment I don’t want to open that can of worms.
Good for you; a charitable attitude which is all too rare. If you haven't, try J B Priestley's 'An Inspector Calls' next time you want to make a complaint. So after sleeping on it, have decided for now not to contact them.
I don’t want to see the other driver looked into by the Police, we all make mistakes and I assume the Police would want the footage from us and could end up prosecuting him. Also if it is a Police Incident and the Police driver didn’t stop, don’t want him potentially getting a ticking off either as not his fault at all.
I’ve got everything saved and my insurer haven’t asked for any details of the Police car yet, if they do ask then it will be taken out of my hands but at the moment I don’t want to open that can of worms.
motco said:
CoreyDog said:
tMorning,
So after sleeping on it, have decided fcor now not to contact them.
I don’t want to see the other driver looked into by the Police, we all make mistakes and I assume the Police would want the footage from us and could end up prosecuting him. Also if it is a Police Incident and the Police driver didn’t stop, don’t want him potentially getting a ticking off either as not his fault at all.
I’ve got everything saved and my insurer haven’t asked for any details of the Police car yet, if they do ask then it will be taken out of my hands but at the moment I don’t want to open that can of worms.
Good for you; a charitable attitude which is all too rare. If you haven't, try J B Priestley's 'An Inspector Calls' next time you want stop to make a complaint. So after sleeping on it, have decided fcor now not to contact them.
I don’t want to see the other driver looked into by the Police, we all make mistakes and I assume the Police would want the footage from us and could end up prosecuting him. Also if it is a Police Incident and the Police driver didn’t stop, don’t want him potentially getting a ticking off either as not his fault at all.
I’ve got everything saved and my insurer haven’t asked for any details of the Police car yet, if they do ask then it will be taken out of my hands but at the moment I don’t want to open that can of worms.
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It’s one of those things. Driving ‘in anger’ under a blue to a Cat1 Emergency to have an incident on response is not the end of the World. Stuff happens.
The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
ADJimbo said:
It’s one of those things. Driving ‘in anger’ under a blue to a Cat1 Emergency to have an incident on response is not the end of the World. Stuff happens.
The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
That's not what happened. The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
Cat
Cat said:
ADJimbo said:
It’s one of those things. Driving ‘in anger’ under a blue to a Cat1 Emergency to have an incident on response is not the end of the World. Stuff happens.
The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
That's not what happened. The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
Cat
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Have the regs changed out of interest?
Went on to join the Bar. In my mind he’s entitled to raise his incident with the Force/Service or has he not? His Dash-Cam footage may hold vital evidence? Maybe there’s footage on there?
That’s what I’ve tried to do to get him a resolve to his basic issue? You’re both in the Position that you say?
Coppers nose. Seemingly lost.
OP claims he’s had a very minor POLAAC on a Response vehicle? Is it not worth him sending it through for a quick-gander at it?
Jesus-Wept. I’ve told him to ring 101 with potential evidence to lodge? I’m speechless…
He’s potentially captured something…
ADJimbo said:
Cat said:
ADJimbo said:
It’s one of those things. Driving ‘in anger’ under a blue to a Cat1 Emergency to have an incident on response is not the end of the World. Stuff happens.
The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
That's not what happened. The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
Cat
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Have the regs changed out of interest?
Went on to join the Bar. In my mind he’s entitled to raise his incident with the Force/Service or has he not? His Dash-Cam footage may hold vital evidence? Maybe there’s footage on there?
That’s what I’ve tried to do to get him a resolve to his basic issue? You’re both in the Position that you say?
Coppers nose. Seemingly lost.
OP claims he’s had a very minor POLAAC on a Response vehicle? Is it not worth him sending it through for a quick-gander at it?
Jesus-Wept. I’ve told him to ring 101 with potential evidence to lodge? I’m speechless…
He’s potentially captured something…
The OP hasn't had an accident with the Police car, they've had an accident with a vehicle reacting to the police car.
The OP should still make contact with 101, because they might provide evidence that might support an investigation.
ADJimbo said:
I served early1998 and left 2006. Trained at WYP Crofton. C1, AD, ADI, TPAC, PSM trained.
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Have the regs changed out of interest?
Went on to join the Bar. In my mind he’s entitled to raise his incident with the Force/Service or has he not? His Dash-Cam footage may hold vital evidence? Maybe there’s footage on there?
That’s what I’ve tried to do to get him a resolve to his basic issue? You’re both in the Position that you say?
Coppers nose. Seemingly lost.
OP claims he’s had a very minor POLAAC on a Response vehicle? Is it not worth him sending it through for a quick-gander at it?
Jesus-Wept. I’ve told him to ring 101 with potential evidence to lodge? I’m speechless…
He’s potentially captured something…
Calm down, take a deep breath and read what the OP says actually happened. You'll see there was no glancing blow with the police vehicle so phoning 101 to tell them there was wouldn't be a very sensible thing to do. \
Have the regs changed out of interest?
Went on to join the Bar. In my mind he’s entitled to raise his incident with the Force/Service or has he not? His Dash-Cam footage may hold vital evidence? Maybe there’s footage on there?
That’s what I’ve tried to do to get him a resolve to his basic issue? You’re both in the Position that you say?
Coppers nose. Seemingly lost.
OP claims he’s had a very minor POLAAC on a Response vehicle? Is it not worth him sending it through for a quick-gander at it?
Jesus-Wept. I’ve told him to ring 101 with potential evidence to lodge? I’m speechless…
He’s potentially captured something…
Cat
Just to clear up any confusion, no contact at all by any vehicle with the Police vehicle, luckily (or skillfully) the Police driver was switched on enough to stop in time before having a head on with the Navara overtaking queued, stationary cars.
Problem came about when the Navara panicked and tried to dive back into a gap that wasn’t there.
Police Drivers view was obscured by several tons of black Nissan so I doubt he even saw the collision but definitely saw the manoeuvre that caused it.
Problem came about when the Navara panicked and tried to dive back into a gap that wasn’t there.
Police Drivers view was obscured by several tons of black Nissan so I doubt he even saw the collision but definitely saw the manoeuvre that caused it.
ADJimbo said:
Cat said:
ADJimbo said:
It’s one of those things. Driving ‘in anger’ under a blue to a Cat1 Emergency to have an incident on response is not the end of the World. Stuff happens.
The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
That's not what happened. The Driver could have been under all sorts of pressure, listening to comms, talking to comms, Single Crewed, DRA etc. it’s not the end of the world. It should be comm’ed as a POLACC / like you must shout if you’ve triggered a speed camera for the log - but if you’ve caused an issue your vehicle MUST stop. This has got red-mist written all over it.
It’s a Judgment call.
Bell 101 and tell the Handler you have had a glancing blow with one of their vehicles, you have footage and they’ll sort it out.
Cat
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Have the regs changed out of interest?
Went on to join the Bar. In my mind he’s entitled to raise his incident with the Force/Service or has he not? His Dash-Cam footage may hold vital evidence? Maybe there’s footage on there?
That’s what I’ve tried to do to get him a resolve to his basic issue? You’re both in the Position that you say?
Coppers nose. Seemingly lost.
OP claims he’s had a very minor POLAAC on a Response vehicle? Is it not worth him sending it through for a quick-gander at it?
Jesus-Wept. I’ve told him to ring 101 with potential evidence to lodge? I’m speechless…
He’s potentially captured something…
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