A048s on an S2 111S
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hbaumhardt

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950 posts

309 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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Having borrowed an S2 Exige for the last 5 days & 500 (be rude not to) miles, I'd like to consider getting the same Yokohama A048 rubber on my S2 111S.

Since this will probably involve new rims and then undoubted geo changes etc, can anyone tell me what I need to plan to spend and what stuff works.

PS didnt actually like the engine though as it forced me to drive ... excessivley :D

cheers, HB

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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You'll need the OZ wheels and a geo. The geo costs about £120 or so, wheel prices are on the Hangar111 website.

Useful information on tyrewheel combos on the Lotus site here www.grouplotus.com/media/car/doc/Wheels%20&%20Tyres_Website.pdf

johnnyhayward

191 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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You'll need stiffer suspesion, some oz wheels, the tyres themselves and a geo.

Budget around £2k+

>> Edited by johnnyhayward on Wednesday 28th September 15:06

hbaumhardt

Original Poster:

950 posts

309 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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Cheers, best get the Mrs to start saving for XMAS then !

As an aside digging around the Lotus PDFs I read; "May 2002 111 & 111S versions available as option, including: 160ps VVC engine ... oil/water heat exchanger"

... does this mean that my S2 111S actually has an oil cooler as standard, and I dont need to worry about fitting a sump sensor for oil temp on track days ?


lotusnick S2

251 posts

260 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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Yes

The S2 111s has a water/oil cooler.

However, I will be fitting oil pressure/temp gauges shortly on my S2 111s.

Nikos

jfrf

406 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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you should rember that rear tyres only last around 6k miles on the road which is preety poor.

A full set is also 600 quid.

This is the worst part in running these tyres

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 29th September 2005
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jfrf said:
you should rember that rear tyres only last around 6k miles on the road which is preety poor.


If only.

Also, if you intend travelling abroad they can be a pig to get hold of. Mine wore on out Stelvio much quicker than expected so rang ahead to the dealer in Merano, who was on route, hoping to arrange to pick some up in a few days time. Was told they don't sell tyres and put onto the local kwikfit who of course couldn't supply.

Called Lotus Customer Service to find out who could help and their response was "What do you want me to do about it?" Outstanding. They bucked up a bit when it was pointed out they they only allow the tyres to be sold through the dealer network and if dealers won't supply it's clearly their problem.

Had to do a 7 hour detour to the excellent PB Racing in Lallio who couldn't have been more helpful. Trip would have been even longer and needed an overnight stay if I'd had to use the tyre inflator.

Bet Poxster owners never have this problem.

RobM77

35,349 posts

264 months

Thursday 29th September 2005
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As a club racer I'll point out that the 48R is virtually standard now for all racing cars having to run on road rubber. Most motorsport suppliers can get you these tyres - so if you're ever stuck, pick up a set from a motorsport supplier and then pop down to a tyre fitting centre and get them put on. I presume that this is the case in Europe.

In the UK I use George Polley Motorsport near March; excellent service and excellent prices. I pay about £50 each for R13 185s.

If you want a road/track comparison, I'm a very smooth driver that makes his tyres last a long time and I can reckon to get 5 or 6 races out of a set... that's about 250 miles!

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 29th September 2005
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RobM77 said:
As a club racer I'll point out that the 48R is virtually standard now for all racing cars having to run on road rubber. Most motorsport suppliers can get you these tyres - so if you're ever stuck, pick up a set from a motorsport supplier and then pop down to a tyre fitting centre and get them put on. I presume that this is the case in Europe.


Thanks, but does that apply to the LTS version?

RobM77

35,349 posts

264 months

Thursday 29th September 2005
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All shapes and sizes of car take the 48R, so I would have thought so yes, unless it is a bespoke tyre for the Elise (I think that the S2 was sold with a bespoke tyre wasn't it? The suspension and everything was designed around it - one of the improvements over the S1).

shangani

3,069 posts

267 months

Friday 30th September 2005
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Re the New LTS which is already widely available, I got this info the other day after much phoning (copied from a recent thread):

The 2006 spec elise is coming out with the same tyre as the federal elise - Yokohama Advan AD07 LTS. Same sizes as the standard Bridgestones.

There is a picture of the interesting tread pattern on the Bell-Colvill website under S2 orinnal parts in the online catalogue section.

I phoned 4 dealers and basically noone knew anything useful about the tyre. I contacted Russell at Lotus Sport and he said essentially:

Cheaper than the Bridgestones - Though so far I have found them for the same price. They will have marginally better dry grip, but will be softer wearing - probably in the 5-10000 mls lifespan. They feel that in the wet, the Bridgestones will be superior. It is not considered a track orientated tyre, and for that they still recommend Yoko 048's on the wider front rims.