Why is my second car insurance so high?
Why is my second car insurance so high?
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Duke Caboom

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2,121 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Not complaining. I reaslise that its a highly competitive industry so prices are what they are but....

My main car is worth 10 times my second car, does 10 times the millage, is covered for commuting and has very similar performance to my second car. Yet even if I set it to TPO it only costs twice as much to ensure the every day car fully comp as the second car. Some of the difference is that they don't fully mirror the (full) NCB but still, seems surprising.

The rest is the same. Obviously my driving history is the same. Both cars in locked garage, at home in very low crime area. I'm just over 50. Responsible, low risk job. Home owner, live with family. Wife as named driver, UK resident all life, 33 years driving. No points. etc.

Cars VW Id.3 (20k miles per year) and e46 330i convertible (1k miles per year).

Wife's second car is an EP3 type R. Surely higher risk that the BMW, but quite a lot less to ensure.

Thanks

TwigtheWonderkid

49,014 posts

179 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Don't ask for TPO, ask for comp. It's usually cheaper. Also, try upping the mileage to around 4000.

Mr Tidy

31,363 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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I don't know if it is still possible but when I first got a 2nd car A-Plan Insurance (now Howden) found me a policy with an insurer who would mirror my NCD, so now my 2nd car has full NCD too.

I'm 60+ living in Surrey and I paid less than £300 for my 330i last April.

But Twig's suggestions sound good. For some reason insurers really don't like very low mileages. I always estimate 5,000 for mine and do most of them as it's my daily driver.

gf15

1,038 posts

295 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Absolutely no logic on insurance. In 2005 my wife replaced her £2k smart car with a 2 year NCB with a £12k BMW 330i. Her insurance went from £200 on the SMART to £96 fully comp on the BMW. WTF?

InitialDave

15,084 posts

148 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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A lot of bellends go backwards off roundabouts in E46s?

Mr Tidy

31,363 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st March 2025
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Maybe mine is cheap because it's an E90!

Bobupndown

2,947 posts

72 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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My 2nd car insurance is £75. Fully comp including commuting, 3000 miles per year.
1963 Mini 850. biggrin

hammo19

7,698 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Insurance can be such a lottery. My renewal on the Karoq was £480, I did the confused thing and reduced it to £270 with the same cover and excess. Crazy.

paddy1970

1,466 posts

138 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Classic or enthusiast cars like your E46 330i convertible often have different risk profiles in generic insurers' models than daily drivers. Try a specialist insurer...they are often way cheaper...



Edited by paddy1970 on Sunday 2nd March 07:53

Cjr32blue

64 posts

98 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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I'm in a similar situation car wise, daily is a 2.0tsi superb and I have an Audi A4 3.2 convertible. The convertible is way cheaper to insure, 15 quid a month. I'd play around with what detail you put in, as suggested trying 4k miles a year, it starts going up again with less than that in my experience.

Duke Caboom

Original Poster:

2,121 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Thanks for all the replies.

I've tried specialists. It was Hagarty who gave the best quote. Interestingly, though, it's actually through Aviva on a normal policy.

I don't understand the classic thing re insurance for this car, unless it's not old enough. All the other criteria (low miles, garaged, second car etc are clearly "classic".

I've had various second / classic cars most of my life and insurance always been very reasonable.

Baldchap

9,624 posts

121 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Try a proper broker.

We don't even pay for modifications on our multiple car policy via Chubb nowadays.

Robmarriott

2,969 posts

187 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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I suspect that the low mileage is a factor.

Cars which sit around unused are a risk for theft, there’s going to be loads of claims when they catch fire because of perished fuel lines. Not using it means maintenance will be worse, on average. And the final point is that every time you drive it, you’re in a car which you simply are not used to driving.

Put those miles up to 8/10k and I bet it’ll go down.

legless

2,030 posts

169 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Robmarriott said:
I suspect that the low mileage is a factor.

Cars which sit around unused are a risk for theft, there’s going to be loads of claims when they catch fire because of perished fuel lines. Not using it means maintenance will be worse, on average. And the final point is that every time you drive it, you’re in a car which you simply are not used to driving.

Put those miles up to 8/10k and I bet it’ll go down.
A few years ago I played around with declared mileage on quotes to see what impact it made.

8k was the magic number. Lower or higher than that, the quotes increased.

fozzymandeus

1,100 posts

175 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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If you handed the ID3 keys to a villain wearing a mask and a stripey shirt they’d just give them back to you.
83.7% of E46s on the road today are stolen.

And 88.4% of all reported statistics are made up on the spot.

Duke Caboom

Original Poster:

2,121 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Aren't algorithms fun! Increasing the milage 4 fold and going up to fully comp with commuting has resulted in a 40% drop. Will keep playing!

Mr Tidy

31,363 posts

156 months

Sunday 2nd March 2025
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Well at least things are getting better!

MattsCar

2,396 posts

134 months

Monday 3rd March 2025
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Duke Caboom said:
Aren't algorithms fun! Increasing the milage 4 fold and going up to fully comp with commuting has resulted in a 40% drop. Will keep playing!
Better get driving then...

Wonder if over declaring mileage is as naughty as under declaring...I would assume not .

DaveCWK

2,400 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd March 2025
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MattsCar said:
Duke Caboom said:
Aren't algorithms fun! Increasing the milage 4 fold and going up to fully comp with commuting has resulted in a 40% drop. Will keep playing!
Better get driving then...

Wonder if over declaring mileage is as naughty as under declaring...I would assume not .
As long as it's not like order of magnitudes different either way it's probably fine.

Estimate mileage on a regular quote is a bit different to an actual limited mileage policy. & both seem very hard to prove to me anyway as quite often limited mileage policies don't specify the car does the limited mileage, just you/your policy.
So someone else could use their insurance to drive your car.

Simon_GH

998 posts

109 months

Monday 3rd March 2025
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My insurance company suggested moving the full NCD to the second car and partial NCD (some sort of allowance as it was a second car in my name and my record is clean) to the main car. Made a huge difference.