Poll: New - Will Trump make it to the end of 4 years?
Poll: Poll: New - Will Trump make it to the end of 4 years?
Total Members Polled: 286
Discussion
A lot has happened in the last month.
Has that changed your view?
Same caveats as per Jon2443 1st poll:
"No other options, just Yes or No.
No includes all possibilities; natural death, assassination, health, being somehow removed from office - impeached, a revolution, revolt by the party."
Previous poll 1st 2 weeka in feb...
Has that changed your view?
Same caveats as per Jon2443 1st poll:
"No other options, just Yes or No.
No includes all possibilities; natural death, assassination, health, being somehow removed from office - impeached, a revolution, revolt by the party."
Previous poll 1st 2 weeka in feb...
I expect the powers who put him there are confident he can be moved aside if all their moves become too hard to digest.
But only he can tell someone getting boned harder than ever that they're having the time of the life and winning.
If they did try to glue in a new figurehead there will be some sort of rude awakening. Hard to see how he can be replaced.
But only he can tell someone getting boned harder than ever that they're having the time of the life and winning.
If they did try to glue in a new figurehead there will be some sort of rude awakening. Hard to see how he can be replaced.
I've said no, more out of hope than anything else.
He's causing a lot of fuss, the very thing he promised to do, made a lot of changes, the very things that populists do, it's the simple 'common sense' answer to very complex problems, but people are already coming to realise that there's a reason why no one had done those things before.
When the hype and showmanship slow down, and he runs out of new things to grab the headlines Americans are going to start to feel the changes personally.
The US is obviously very powerful, but he may have over-estimated it. He's pissed off every US ally, whilst pandering to Russia, the old enemy, and even Grok, Musk's (awful) AI platform think's Trump is a compromised asset of Putin with a probability of over 80%. I don't know if he expected to impose Tariffs on the rest of the world and they wouldn't respond in kind. Soon American's are going to realise that those tariffs aren't paid by those other countries in the end, but paid by them. Even if the US is able to increase manufacturing and replace those imported goods with US made goods, they're still going to cost a lot more.
Him and his Team have launched a massive attack on human rights in the US, that sounds like a positive for many of his core "Human Rights" are the things libtards cry about when they're beaten by the police or whatever, but pretty soon they'll come to the realisation that, as humans, those are also their rights. When they're the ones being f
ked over, they won't be so pleased.
It's a similar story with mass deportations, a lot of under his core are 'working blue collar guys' who don't want to lose jobs to immigrants. It's already a meme, but those same guys are now the ones hiding their friends and co-workers when ICE raids their sites.
I don't know the mechanism for removing a President, he won't go easily, but if his party turn against him, those outstand legal cases look like the most likely way.
He's causing a lot of fuss, the very thing he promised to do, made a lot of changes, the very things that populists do, it's the simple 'common sense' answer to very complex problems, but people are already coming to realise that there's a reason why no one had done those things before.
When the hype and showmanship slow down, and he runs out of new things to grab the headlines Americans are going to start to feel the changes personally.
The US is obviously very powerful, but he may have over-estimated it. He's pissed off every US ally, whilst pandering to Russia, the old enemy, and even Grok, Musk's (awful) AI platform think's Trump is a compromised asset of Putin with a probability of over 80%. I don't know if he expected to impose Tariffs on the rest of the world and they wouldn't respond in kind. Soon American's are going to realise that those tariffs aren't paid by those other countries in the end, but paid by them. Even if the US is able to increase manufacturing and replace those imported goods with US made goods, they're still going to cost a lot more.
Him and his Team have launched a massive attack on human rights in the US, that sounds like a positive for many of his core "Human Rights" are the things libtards cry about when they're beaten by the police or whatever, but pretty soon they'll come to the realisation that, as humans, those are also their rights. When they're the ones being f
ked over, they won't be so pleased. It's a similar story with mass deportations, a lot of under his core are 'working blue collar guys' who don't want to lose jobs to immigrants. It's already a meme, but those same guys are now the ones hiding their friends and co-workers when ICE raids their sites.
I don't know the mechanism for removing a President, he won't go easily, but if his party turn against him, those outstand legal cases look like the most likely way.
P-Jay said:
I don't know the mechanism for removing a President, he won't go easily, but if his party turn against him, those outstand legal cases look like the most likely way.
It won't come from anyone in his own party. It's safe to say enough of the legal world is now part of his apparatus too. From within it could only be the people in the shadows.
From without it would have to be a very large amount of people power. And a universal swathe of it. Hard to see enough people caring no matter what is inflicted on them.
I'm starting to be pretty confident that he won't go the distance.
There's always the chance he'll fall off the perch before full time because of his age and obvious decline in health.
The damage that the massive mass sackings will do will upset an awful lot of people and it wouldn't be a stretch to think a disenfranchised Billy Bob won't have a go and I'm pretty sure a drone aimed at The Beast would be hard to stop.
The final option is the GOP or his backers pushing him out in time to give JD or another patsy a chance to build a profile before 2028 especially if the mid terms are a disaster which at the moment looks highly likely.
So no, one way or the other he will probably be gone by end of 2027
There's always the chance he'll fall off the perch before full time because of his age and obvious decline in health.
The damage that the massive mass sackings will do will upset an awful lot of people and it wouldn't be a stretch to think a disenfranchised Billy Bob won't have a go and I'm pretty sure a drone aimed at The Beast would be hard to stop.
The final option is the GOP or his backers pushing him out in time to give JD or another patsy a chance to build a profile before 2028 especially if the mid terms are a disaster which at the moment looks highly likely.
So no, one way or the other he will probably be gone by end of 2027
He's pissing a lot of people off. In these early days it looks like strong positive action but I think the hollowing out of the state will at some point start to bite the US economy and population hard with all sorts of unintended consequences (they clearly haven't thought through the implications of what they are doing in any level of detail - it simply isn't possible for them to have done so at more than a cursory level) and if there is any actual democracy left in the US, the people will demand of their elected representatives they are not going to accept it.
My great fear is that trump and musk will have hollowed out the checks and balances of power so much that it actually doesn't matter how much they've hurt the average american, there will be no democratic mechanism to force trump to change course or force his removal. If this proves to be the case, then America really is fked anyway.
My great fear is that trump and musk will have hollowed out the checks and balances of power so much that it actually doesn't matter how much they've hurt the average american, there will be no democratic mechanism to force trump to change course or force his removal. If this proves to be the case, then America really is f
ked anyway. At the moment he seems to have paralysed both houses, they are completely baffled. Talking to BBC and C4 News counts for nothing.
The mid-terms will be the litmus test, as the negatives will have begun to bite.
Having recently watched Landman I have this vision of most Texans shouting “Damm right” to almost everything that he says and then does.
I think that he will go the course, health permitting, but his current rate of decrees with be greatly reduced in a couple of years.
Vance as the next President is even more frightening. The Democrats really need to get their act together. They played into his hands with sleepy Joe.
The mid-terms will be the litmus test, as the negatives will have begun to bite.
Having recently watched Landman I have this vision of most Texans shouting “Damm right” to almost everything that he says and then does.
I think that he will go the course, health permitting, but his current rate of decrees with be greatly reduced in a couple of years.
Vance as the next President is even more frightening. The Democrats really need to get their act together. They played into his hands with sleepy Joe.
suthol said:
I'm starting to be pretty confident that he won't go the distance.
There's always the chance he'll fall off the perch before full time because of his age and obvious decline in health.
The damage that the massive mass sackings will do will upset an awful lot of people and it wouldn't be a stretch to think a disenfranchised Billy Bob won't have a go and I'm pretty sure a drone aimed at The Beast would be hard to stop.
The final option is the GOP or his backers pushing him out in time to give JD or another patsy a chance to build a profile before 2028 especially if the mid terms are a disaster which at the moment looks highly likely.
So no, one way or the other he will probably be gone by end of 2027
Past presidents seem to live way beyond the average life expectancy so you'd assume he will still be going unless congress can remove him. There's always the chance he'll fall off the perch before full time because of his age and obvious decline in health.
The damage that the massive mass sackings will do will upset an awful lot of people and it wouldn't be a stretch to think a disenfranchised Billy Bob won't have a go and I'm pretty sure a drone aimed at The Beast would be hard to stop.
The final option is the GOP or his backers pushing him out in time to give JD or another patsy a chance to build a profile before 2028 especially if the mid terms are a disaster which at the moment looks highly likely.
So no, one way or the other he will probably be gone by end of 2027
Surely there's plenty of evidence against him already for bribery and treason??
Yes he will. 4 years isn't a long time. Nobody will shoot him, no matter how much of a hard-on the rest of the world has for that scenario.
Hopefully his hair-brained ideas will fade away as more sensible people tell him about the negative impacts his behaviour is having, and he will end his term a laughing stock, and the impact that will have on Vance's chances will be significant. Come on Dems, get your fking act together and pick someone realistic, not idealistic, but someone with a chance of getting in and doing some good with your international clout. Don't be as fking thick as last time.
Hopefully his hair-brained ideas will fade away as more sensible people tell him about the negative impacts his behaviour is having, and he will end his term a laughing stock, and the impact that will have on Vance's chances will be significant. Come on Dems, get your f
king act together and pick someone realistic, not idealistic, but someone with a chance of getting in and doing some good with your international clout. Don't be as fking thick as last time. otherman said:
J6542 said:
He is in the job now till he snuffs t one way or another , whether that is 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. He isn’t giving that position up now.
I agree with this. He's already revving up to use the insurrection act to stamp out any opposition. He's an arse, to put it mildly, but I wouldn't bet my house against him getting another 4 years. It requires legislation change, but he has control over the government, not just in Republican/Dem numbers, but he's surrounded himself with yes men. He's an accomplished liar and grifter, we can chomp how stty he is, but there will be a good number of Americans that care more about America First than Dead Ukranians. Any quality of life fallout from his actions will probably take longer than 3.5 years to REALLY bite the common man (or will be bullstted away) and the Democrats so far don't look like putting up a credible opposition.
If I'm wrong and he's out in 6 months from now I'd be delighted.
tty he is, but there will be a good number of Americans that care more about America First than Dead Ukranians. Any quality of life fallout from his actions will probably take longer than 3.5 years to REALLY bite the common man (or will be bullstted away) and the Democrats so far don't look like putting up a credible opposition.If I'm wrong and he's out in 6 months from now I'd be delighted.
CraigyMc said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Nobody will shoot him, no matter how much of a hard-on the rest of the world has for that scenario.
Someone's already shot him.Hopefully this will be a turning point for the US, we flirted with populism with Truss and Johnson, once we saw past them, they were gone and took their party with them.
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king up the economic recovery from Covid and the Tories get a decent leader, we'll put Farage out to pasture too. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff