French toll roads

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Biker9090

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1,429 posts

50 months

Friday 14th March
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I've got a trip next week and part of it involves getting from Caen Ferry port down to Bordeaux area.

Roughly about 6hrs plus stops on toll roads or more otherwise. I'm used to similar hours in the saddle so that doesn't concern me.

I've planned around them to a degree but need to get to Chantonnay before I come off them.

A88, A28, A11 and A87 will be used.

How does it work with a bike? Do all of these have booths or do i pay online? I can't seem to make head nor tail of the French sites.


TOLL TAGS ARE NOT AN OPTION. They were more than what I wanted to pay for 1 days use and it's too late now anyway.

croyde

24,553 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March
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I've just travelled some of those. They were all booths apart from one which I don't think you'll use, which was like ULEZ. You looked up on their website and paid online within a day, or two.

I'm not sure how the booths knew that I was a car, not a van or bike. Cameras maybe.

Last time I used the autoroutes on a bike was in the 80s and I'm sure it was free biggrin

ETA it's the A13 and A14 that are pay online.



Edited by croyde on Friday 14th March 17:14

Triaguar

918 posts

226 months

Friday 14th March
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You use them.like a car does . It will be an automatic toll booth, ie no people at it. It wil either be to pay or take a ticket.

If its "take a ticket" you ride up to the booth and it dispenses a ticket which you put into another booth at the other end.

If its "pay" ride up to the booth it shows you the price and you pay. As you approach you will see signs above the booths showing coins a credit card or 'T' go to the coins or credit card signs they are usually both. The 'T' is auto tag.

I find it easier with credit card. Some are contactless some not.

You have to be a little prepared ie have your card handy or lots of change somewhere. It's a little time consuming, just don't get flustered.

Some stretches have ticket then pay. Some stretches are straight to pay and some stretches are free. It depends where you are coming on and off.

paddy1970

1,093 posts

122 months

Friday 14th March
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If you are using French autoroutes on a motorbike, you can pay manually at toll booths (péages) using either cash or card—you do not need a toll tag (Télépéage).

Motorbikes are classified as "Class 5" – cheaper than cars.

richhead

2,188 posts

24 months

Friday 14th March
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Just be aware they do time you between toll booths, if you dont take the piss you will be ok, we did and had a huge fine. So a quick petrol stop between tolls is not a bad idea.

croyde

24,553 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March
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richhead said:
Just be aware they do time you between toll booths, if you dont take the piss you will be ok, we did and had a huge fine. So a quick petrol stop between tolls is not a bad idea.
Did the fine suddenly turn up at your home with no warning.

Asking as I was quite often a bit quick but then you have to be going some to raise your average speed smile

4Q

3,543 posts

157 months

Friday 14th March
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richhead said:
Just be aware they do time you between toll booths, if you dont take the piss you will be ok, we did and had a huge fine. So a quick petrol stop between tolls is not a bad idea.
No they don’t, I regularly drive through France and have never got a ticket for speeding between toll booths. It would be illegal to do so in France as it’s a breach of personal data. Note however if you see a speed camera sign there will definitely be a camera within the next km or so.

The “huge fine” you received must’ve been from a normal camera. I’ve had a few, usually doing 130kmh when it’s dropped to 110kmh and they are around €40 so not exactly huge. I pay it on their app and get on with my day.

Edited by 4Q on Friday 14th March 18:02

CHLEMCBC

617 posts

30 months

Friday 14th March
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4Q said:
richhead said:
Just be aware they do time you between toll booths, if you dont take the piss you will be ok, we did and had a huge fine. So a quick petrol stop between tolls is not a bad idea.
No they don’t, I regularly drive through France and have never got a ticket for speeding between toll booths. It would be illegal to do so in France as it’s a breach of personal data. Note however if you see a speed camera sign there will definitely be a camera within the next km or so.
You probably know this but you should also turn off the camera alerts on whatever navigation app you're using as they're illegal, although the chances of getting done for that must be pretty slim

Triaguar

918 posts

226 months

Friday 14th March
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CHLEMCBC said:
4Q said:
richhead said:
Just be aware they do time you between toll booths, if you dont take the piss you will be ok, we did and had a huge fine. So a quick petrol stop between tolls is not a bad idea.
No they don’t, I regularly drive through France and have never got a ticket for speeding between toll booths. It would be illegal to do so in France as it’s a breach of personal data. Note however if you see a speed camera sign there will definitely be a camera within the next km or so.
You probably know this but you should also turn off the camera alerts on whatever navigation app you're using as they're illegal, although the chances of getting done for that must be pretty slim
It is actually illegal to have a device that has speed camera alerts on the machine whether activated or not. My device has an alert for "Dangerous stretch of road "

KTMsm

28,533 posts

276 months

Friday 14th March
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4Q said:
The “huge fine” you received must’ve been from a normal camera. I’ve had a few, usually doing 130kmh when it’s dropped to 110kmh and they are around €40 so not exactly huge. I pay it on their app and get on with my day.
You're very naive assuming that others are only riding at 20kmh over

What's the fine for 100+kmh over ?

I'll tell you...

HUGE !

CHLEMCBC

617 posts

30 months

Friday 14th March
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Triaguar said:
It is actually illegal to have a device that has speed camera alerts on the machine whether activated or not. My device has an alert for "Dangerous stretch of road "
Ooh, I didn't know that. How do French people use apps like Google maps or Waze?

Simes205

4,773 posts

241 months

Friday 14th March
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KTMsm said:
4Q said:
The “huge fine” you received must’ve been from a normal camera. I’ve had a few, usually doing 130kmh when it’s dropped to 110kmh and they are around €40 so not exactly huge. I pay it on their app and get on with my day.
You're very naive assuming that others are only riding at 20kmh over

What's the fine for 100+kmh over ?

I'll tell you...

HUGE !
I got 5 in a month…..145kmh mostly. I just stick to 135kmh on the cruise these days.
I think 4 years ago it was about 60 euros each.

hiccy18

3,234 posts

80 months

Friday 14th March
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I use a tag now, Emovis are easy to deal with, but you won't get one on time, as you know. So, plan B, I put a debit card in the side pocket of my tank bag, can use it contactless without taking my gloves off.

Edited by hiccy18 on Friday 14th March 20:49

Triaguar

918 posts

226 months

Friday 14th March
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CHLEMCBC said:
Triaguar said:
It is actually illegal to have a device that has speed camera alerts on the machine whether activated or not. My device has an alert for "Dangerous stretch of road "
Ooh, I didn't know that. How do French people use apps like Google maps or Waze?
To be honest, not sure........as you mentioned whole world of difference between it not being allowed and any enforcement. I think it may be aimed at machine manufacturers. I am currently on a three month tour of Spain in my motor home...in England my sat nav shows speed cameras, as soon as I hit France it automatically disabled and came back again in Spain

P675

438 posts

45 months

Friday 14th March
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CHLEMCBC said:
Ooh, I didn't know that. How do French people use apps like Google maps or Waze?
Used Waze driving to Paris 2 years ago and it will indicate a long zone where a camera could be, rather than exact location.

Triaguar

918 posts

226 months

Friday 14th March
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P675 said:
CHLEMCBC said:
Ooh, I didn't know that. How do French people use apps like Google maps or Waze?
Used Waze driving to Paris 2 years ago and it will indicate a long zone where a camera could be, rather than exact location.
That's what mine does...gives a warning for "dangerous road..." and invariably the camera is in there somewhere

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,798 posts

74 months

Friday 14th March
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I understand Garmin still provides the precise location...but generally for tolls you'll want a tank bag to make getting your card and ticket out much easier. Suppose if you take a bit it drops your average speed...

croyde

24,553 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March
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Last month in France, Waze just said that there were average speed sections ahead, whenever there were cameras with an extra prompt saying police spotted ahead.

In Spain it went back to showing exactly where the cameras were.

Michael_B

854 posts

113 months

Saturday 15th March
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The idea that French autoroutes issue fines based on toll ticket entry/exit times is a myth. I don’t use a tank bag, having a debit card and the ticket in my left jacket pocket works fine.

I do 200km return most weekends on the A40/A39 going by car from my Swiss place to our French house, and get every 8th trip for free.

Any fines (had 3-4 over the past 12 years of this routine) are sent to my Geneva address about a month later. Cameras are generally fixed, but occasionally there are temporary ones, usually on the 110 downhill section leaving the Jura towards Bourg-en-Bresse.

If I use my APRR car tag on the motorbike, I am (correctly) billed as class 5; I assume it’s a combination of weight sensors and/or cameras that work this out. However make sure you don’t use the lanes with any height restriction, as you’ll get charged as a car.

Bonne (auto)route!

the cueball

1,439 posts

68 months

Saturday 15th March
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Make sure you try to get the Class 5 charge for a motorbike and not the usual car one.

Bikes are cheaper, but the automatic ones don’t always register.

I had to press the button at payment time and have a talk to get the rate reduced.

classe cinq s'il vous plaît!!