RX 450h Towing??
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factory warrant is nearly up on our xc90(2019 car that was 'volvo selekt').
Volvo want £1400 a year for an extended warranty. The cars not been faultless so I'm not wanting it without a warranty.
Apart from normal large family use, it does get used to tow a horse trailer, all up weight of about 1750kg, every sat am for around 20 miles.
I can't really see past getting a Lexus rx450H, as I can get a 2020 year for the same WBAC as the volvo, along with a the lexus 10year warranty.
anything else I should consider? I guess around £30ish K.
Volvo want £1400 a year for an extended warranty. The cars not been faultless so I'm not wanting it without a warranty.
Apart from normal large family use, it does get used to tow a horse trailer, all up weight of about 1750kg, every sat am for around 20 miles.
I can't really see past getting a Lexus rx450H, as I can get a 2020 year for the same WBAC as the volvo, along with a the lexus 10year warranty.
anything else I should consider? I guess around £30ish K.
My dad has a 2010 RX450h that he uses to tow his caravan of a similar weight. Averages around 20mpg when towing.
Plenty of power and pulls well, his has air suspension which helps too.
Only thing to watch is the low nose weight of 75kg, this may be different for newer models.
He’s had it about 10 years, never put a foot wrong apart from last weekend where we had to replace a couple of boot struts.
Plenty of power and pulls well, his has air suspension which helps too.
Only thing to watch is the low nose weight of 75kg, this may be different for newer models.
He’s had it about 10 years, never put a foot wrong apart from last weekend where we had to replace a couple of boot struts.
This is what I was looking at, although its over priced.
https://used.lexus.co.uk/approved-used/lexus-rx-su...
https://used.lexus.co.uk/approved-used/lexus-rx-su...
The xc90 was voted most unreliable car last year, so not surprised you want shot of it. The fall of volvo since Chinese ownership has been sad to see.
I can see the appeal of a lexus due to potential 10 year warranty, just be aware servicing prices are v expensive at lexus (my NX was £800 for a minor service with 2 new discs and pads some 6 years ago, probably £1000 now) . Lexus don't negotiate on price, but if you can get a year or two servicing thrown in that's worth over £1000.
I can see the appeal of a lexus due to potential 10 year warranty, just be aware servicing prices are v expensive at lexus (my NX was £800 for a minor service with 2 new discs and pads some 6 years ago, probably £1000 now) . Lexus don't negotiate on price, but if you can get a year or two servicing thrown in that's worth over £1000.
If you’re buying a Lexus under ten years old you probably already know you can get another years warranty with a dealer service - that’s partly why services can be a touch pricey - mine are 400-odd and 700-odd over alternate years (LC500).
It also means buying a car from a main dealer might not make sense if there are cheaper private sale cars available - the vast majority have full dealer history and therefore a warranty anyway, they’re just that kind of car.
It also means buying a car from a main dealer might not make sense if there are cheaper private sale cars available - the vast majority have full dealer history and therefore a warranty anyway, they’re just that kind of car.
A Mazda CX-60 has a longer wheelbase than the Lexus, a drive mode specifically for towing that aids stability, an 8 speed auto rather than a CVT, a (braked trailer) tow rating of 2500kg with a ball weight of 100kg.
Both 3.3L Diesel and 2.5L PHEV's are available within the £30K budget, Homura and Takumi spec are suprisingly refined and luxurious.
Both 3.3L Diesel and 2.5L PHEV's are available within the £30K budget, Homura and Takumi spec are suprisingly refined and luxurious.
Just regarding the Lexus 10 year warranty be aware although there is some leeway on mileage and time limits for the first 3 years warranty the subsequent years do not have any leeway to keep the remaining 7 year warranty! Not even a day late so you would need to check the service history is within time / mileage limits for the warranty to be intact.
My Lexus dealer has been superb, by the way. Better experience all round than Merc, BMW, Audi.
My Lexus dealer has been superb, by the way. Better experience all round than Merc, BMW, Audi.
Matt_T said:
Does it make more sense to buy a family car without towing limit (like a Sante Fe / Sorento at £25k) then buy an old Hilux / LC200 (£10k) for the 20 miles once a week horse box trip?
There are a few websites that allow you to search tow cars by towing capacity etc.
not at all for us, its another car to insure/tax/mot park etc etc. 2 tonnes leaves plenty of headroom, just looking for a nice, reliable experience!There are a few websites that allow you to search tow cars by towing capacity etc.
Frankychops said:
Matt_T said:
Does it make more sense to buy a family car without towing limit (like a Sante Fe / Sorento at £25k) then buy an old Hilux / LC200 (£10k) for the 20 miles once a week horse box trip?
There are a few websites that allow you to search tow cars by towing capacity etc.
not at all for us, its another car to insure/tax/mot park etc etc. 2 tonnes leaves plenty of headroom, just looking for a nice, reliable experience!There are a few websites that allow you to search tow cars by towing capacity etc.
How about the Toyota Highlander? Same engine/drivetrain as the most recent Lexus RX.
Otherwise you are with Land Rovers / Touaregs / X5s etc
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15656434
Edited by Matt_T on Tuesday 18th March 17:07
Matt_T said:
No probs, just asking!
How about the Toyota Highlander? Same engine/drivetrain as the most recent Lexus RX.
Otherwise you are with Land Rovers / Touaregs / X5s etc
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15656434
Sorry if it came across wrong, good shout, just not what we really need/doesnt suit.How about the Toyota Highlander? Same engine/drivetrain as the most recent Lexus RX.
Otherwise you are with Land Rovers / Touaregs / X5s etc
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15656434
Edited by Matt_T on Tuesday 18th March 17:07
I’ve had a look at the highlander, another good one for the list
so by way of rounding out. Looking at every option, however the mrs took one for a drive, really liked it, so have put a deposit on this.
https://www.group1auto.co.uk/used-cars/lexus-rx-45...
Main reason also being warranty till near the end of 2012. a lack of hassle thats not to be sniffed at.
https://www.group1auto.co.uk/used-cars/lexus-rx-45...
Main reason also being warranty till near the end of 2012. a lack of hassle thats not to be sniffed at.
Frankychops said:
They did but only for new models I think the Gen 4 2022 RX is still at risk. The latest Gen 5 which came in at the beginning of '23 is fine. As above I'd suggest the buyer checks all that can be done has been.
From a Lexus notification below:
Which models are affected by year?
Lexus models Affected years/months
Lexus LC / LC-C 2017/03 – 2024/03
Lexus RC 2017/03 – 2024/03
Lexus RX / RX L 450h 2015/10 – 2022/10
Lexus ES 2018/10 – 2024/02
Lexus GS / GS-F 2015/11 – 2020/11
Lexus NX 2017/09 – 2021/10
Lexus LS 2017/10 – 2022/09
Lexus UX / UXe 2018/10 – 2023/12
Omegatt said:
They did but only for new models I think the Gen 4 2022 RX is still at risk.
The latest Gen 5 which came in at the beginning of '23 is fine. As above I'd suggest the buyer checks all that can be done has been.
From a Lexus notification below:
Which models are affected by year?
Lexus models Affected years/months
Lexus LC / LC-C 2017/03 – 2024/03
Lexus RC 2017/03 – 2024/03
Lexus RX / RX L 450h 2015/10 – 2022/10
Lexus ES 2018/10 – 2024/02
Lexus GS / GS-F 2015/11 – 2020/11
Lexus NX 2017/09 – 2021/10
Lexus LS 2017/10 – 2022/09
Lexus UX / UXe 2018/10 – 2023/12
Yes, but that’s model years, as per the press release they made changes from late 21. I will check though. The latest Gen 5 which came in at the beginning of '23 is fine. As above I'd suggest the buyer checks all that can be done has been.
From a Lexus notification below:
Which models are affected by year?
Lexus models Affected years/months
Lexus LC / LC-C 2017/03 – 2024/03
Lexus RC 2017/03 – 2024/03
Lexus RX / RX L 450h 2015/10 – 2022/10
Lexus ES 2018/10 – 2024/02
Lexus GS / GS-F 2015/11 – 2020/11
Lexus NX 2017/09 – 2021/10
Lexus LS 2017/10 – 2022/09
Lexus UX / UXe 2018/10 – 2023/12
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