Rover 75 £450 at Anglia Classic Car Auctions

Rover 75 £450 at Anglia Classic Car Auctions

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Rob 131 Sport

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3,474 posts

65 months

Sunday 6th April
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Whilst I personally loathe the things and they are undesirable, that is very cheap at £450 for someone. It was an 01 plate 75 Club Saloon in Met Blue at Anglia Car Auctions.

I just saw it as I was having my lunch. Are prices for old cars low or is it just the 75.

Edited by Rob 131 Sport on Sunday 6th April 13:33

OutInTheShed

10,695 posts

39 months

Sunday 6th April
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It's an old car, sold as seen no warranty.
While they were 'not bad' when new, they lost value early on and often became sheds at a young age.
I don't see why anyone would particularly want one.

I think the 'classic car thing' is in serious decline, old, fairly ordinary cars are much less sought after than a few years ago.

Cars of the 2000 era have always been 'value' compared with older or newer?
Rover at the time was in a mess, being taken over by BMW and later dumped.
Design appeared to have been subject to short cuts, quality wasn't great.

It's modern enough to have bits that amateurs don't understand, old enough to be failing.

Watcher of the skies

770 posts

50 months

Sunday 6th April
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As with anything it will depend on the spec and condition. Club is the base spec, which engine was it?

Deep Thought

37,390 posts

210 months

Sunday 6th April
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Watcher of the skies said:
As with anything it will depend on the spec and condition. Club is the base spec, which engine was it?
+1

The 2.5 variants are desirable, a 1.8 four banger or 2.0 litre diesel not so much.

Also it could have been to the moon and back, in terms of miles accrued

They were very good cars in their day.

D9

19 posts

4 months

Sunday 6th April
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These cars are okay at that price as a cheap runaround.

But if it has a K series engine, it's only a matter of time before the head gasket fails.

OutInTheShed

10,695 posts

39 months

Sunday 6th April
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Deep Thought said:
+1

The 2.5 variants are desirable, a 1.8 four banger or 2.0 litre diesel not so much.

Also it could have been to the moon and back, in terms of miles accrued

They were very good cars in their day.
I thought the diesel was moderately desirable due to being a BMW motor?

The 2.5 was very thirsty and not very exciting.

Big numbers of these cars didn't make it to ten years old.
They weren't worth much and were expensive to fix, with some spares 'not available' due to Rover's demise.

a lot of mildly up market cars of this era like X-type jaags and 159s also suffered a lot of attrition and are now pretty cheap..
I can imagine the graphs on 'howmanyleft' bottoming out not much above zero.

Deep Thought

37,390 posts

210 months

Sunday 6th April
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OutInTheShed said:
I thought the diesel was moderately desirable due to being a BMW motor?

The 2.5 was very thirsty and not very exciting.

Big numbers of these cars didn't make it to ten years old.
They weren't worth much and were expensive to fix, with some spares 'not available' due to Rover's demise.

a lot of mildly up market cars of this era like X-type jaags and 159s also suffered a lot of attrition and are now pretty cheap..
I can imagine the graphs on 'howmanyleft' bottoming out not much above zero.
If someone was looking a shed runabout then yes, there may be some desirability in the diesel.

A 2.5 v6 190 was a lovely sounding thing, and had a decent turn of speed.

Rimmer Bros carry most stock for them.

I wouldnt want to run one as a daily, personally, but i can see the appeal from a Rover enthusiast for the right car in the right spec.

I'd a ZT 2.5 v6. The 160BHP variant. Bought cheap off a friend. I really enjoyed owning it.


Dapster

7,918 posts

193 months

Sunday 6th April
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I worked om the development of the 75 and do still believe that it was a great car (let down by that absolute st show that was Rover Group in the 90's), We couldn't sell any though except to pensioners in Eastbourne whose last new car would have been a Honda Ballade era Rover 216. The big issue was the BMW 3 series selling itself - something like 85% of 3 series deposits were taken in the UK without a test drive. The irony was that most buyers of course, know nothing about cars and have no care, concern or knowledge about what they are driving - and for them, a 75 would have been a far better car - better value for money, fantastically refined, good ride, decent build quality and plenty of kit.

A 75 V8 Tourer would be cool as hell to smoke about in now!


OutInTheShed

10,695 posts

39 months

Sunday 6th April
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Deep Thought said:
If someone was looking a shed runabout then yes, there may be some desirability in the diesel.

A 2.5 v6 190 was a lovely sounding thing, and had a decent turn of speed.

Rimmer Bros carry most stock for them.

I wouldnt want to run one as a daily, personally, but i can see the appeal from a Rover enthusiast for the right car in the right spec.

I'd a ZT 2.5 v6. The 160BHP variant. Bought cheap off a friend. I really enjoyed owning it.

Is 'Rover Enthusiast' an actual variety of person?

A mate had a ZTT V6 10 or 12 years ago.
It was a nice looking car and was very civilised to travel in, but not really exciting.
Bits of trim kept dropping off it.
There was a comedy catalogue of minor problems.
The thermostat failed. On some cars thats a ten minute job.
On that car it's 'first remove the inlet manifolds'....
This was temporarily bodged with an inline thermostat while clearing the decks to fix that, and see if the bodged exhaust would get through the MOT, as a new back box was unobtainium or more than the car was worth.
Just before it was going for an MOT, the clutch slave cylinder went.
That's a gearbox out job.
To be fair to it, it attracted a good price for breaking on ebay.

Deep Thought

37,390 posts

210 months

Sunday 6th April
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OutInTheShed said:
Is 'Rover Enthusiast' an actual variety of person?
It is yes.

Though it has become a popular pastime to kick Rovers Group cars.

Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 6th April 17:14

Huntsman

8,600 posts

263 months

Sunday 6th April
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Deep Thought said:
It is yes.

Though it has become a popular pastime to kick Rovers Group cars.

Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 6th April 17:14
I'm a Rover P6 enthusiast if that counts.

OutInTheShed

10,695 posts

39 months

Sunday 6th April
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Huntsman said:
I'm a Rover P6 enthusiast if that counts.
Does that make you want to buy a post-Honda Rover?

restoman

958 posts

221 months

Sunday 6th April
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Watcher of the skies said:
As with anything it will depend on the spec and condition. Club is the base spec, which engine was it?
'Classic' is base spec. 'Club' is mid range. 'Connoisseur' is top spec for pre-facelift models.
Still just an old banger though . . .

Rob 131 Sport

Original Poster:

3,474 posts

65 months

Monday 7th April
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Dapster said:
I worked om the development of the 75 and do still believe that it was a great car (let down by that absolute st show that was Rover Group in the 90's), We couldn't sell any though except to pensioners in Eastbourne whose last new car would have been a Honda Ballade era Rover 216. The big issue was the BMW 3 series selling itself - something like 85% of 3 series deposits were taken in the UK without a test drive. The irony was that most buyers of course, know nothing about cars and have no care, concern or knowledge about what they are driving - and for them, a 75 would have been a far better car - better value for money, fantastically refined, good ride, decent build quality and plenty of kit.

A 75 V8 Tourer would be cool as hell to smoke about in now!

Interesting statistic regarding the 3 series. I bought a 99 E46 318i in 2002 without a test drive as I knew it would be good. It was and there is just no way as a 29 year old I’d of gone near a Rover 75. Principally because it just looked awful and had an old man image.

Dapster

7,918 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April
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Rob 131 Sport said:
Dapster said:
I worked om the development of the 75 and do still believe that it was a great car (let down by that absolute st show that was Rover Group in the 90's), We couldn't sell any though except to pensioners in Eastbourne whose last new car would have been a Honda Ballade era Rover 216. The big issue was the BMW 3 series selling itself - something like 85% of 3 series deposits were taken in the UK without a test drive. The irony was that most buyers of course, know nothing about cars and have no care, concern or knowledge about what they are driving - and for them, a 75 would have been a far better car - better value for money, fantastically refined, good ride, decent build quality and plenty of kit.

A 75 V8 Tourer would be cool as hell to smoke about in now!

Interesting statistic regarding the 3 series. I bought a 99 E46 318i in 2002 without a test drive as I knew it would be good. It was and there is just no way as a 29 year old I’d of gone near a Rover 75. Principally because it just looked awful and had an old man image.
Most mid range cars of the 90's were company cars where you selected from a list - the trend of taking the cash and choosing your own car was yet to take off. So given a list of a Mondeo, Cav, Primera or 3 series, what's anyone going to do? I did the same - 1998, day one of my new job. List pinged into my inbox at 9:01. By 9:03 returned the email to the fleet dept with the 316i E36 ticked! Didn't even open a brochure let alone have a test drive.

bnseven

157 posts

151 months

Monday 7th April
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This particular Rover was a base model 1.8 that had been a Cat C write off so wasn't a great surprise someone was only prepared to give just over £600 for it....suspect as much to do with the insurance category as the model of car, there are still plenty of nicer uncrashed ones out there...

daqinggregg

4,082 posts

142 months

Tuesday 8th April
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There was I thinking some jammy bugger had snaffled a piece of 1950’s British motoring heritage for 450 nicker.

Since when did logic play any part in the values of classics. Not long ago the ‘Ford boys’ were pondering the question ‘Will hot FWD drive Fords ever see the growth in value like that of fast RWD Fords’. This auction someone parted with £7,560 of their hard earned, for Fiesta 1.1L.

My guess, the vendor of the Rover, was hoping for the magical two bidders; sadly they were both at home, feet up, supping a mug of Yorkshires finest, smoking a pipe while perusing the Daily Mail!


CKY

2,201 posts

28 months

Tuesday 8th April
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Dapster said:
The big issue was the BMW 3 series selling itself - something like 85% of 3 series deposits were taken in the UK without a test drive. The irony was that most buyers of course, know nothing about cars and have no care, concern or knowledge about what they are driving - and for them, a 75 would have been a far better car - better value for money, fantastically refined, good ride, decent build quality and plenty of kit.
Well said, I remember wasting a couple of minutes trying to explain to a lady shopping for an E30 325i cabriolet the benefits of having a RWD car; in all honesty for the type of driving they did a Rover 75 would have been far better-suited. Through the late-80s there was a massive increase in people shopping for BMWs who seemed to have no idea of anything about the product, aside from the blue/white roundel; could tell with the introduction of the E36-generation that this effectively led to the 'dumbing down' of the RWD handling traits and playfulness of the chassis - E30 325i vs E36 325i, no contest in the 'sheer driving pleasure' stakes.

Deep Thought

37,390 posts

210 months

Tuesday 8th April
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daqinggregg said:
There was I thinking some jammy bugger had snaffled a piece of 1950’s British motoring heritage for 450 nicker.

Since when did logic play any part in the values of classics. Not long ago the ‘Ford boys’ were pondering the question ‘Will hot FWD drive Fords ever see the growth in value like that of fast RWD Fords’. This auction someone parted with £7,560 of their hard earned, for Fiesta 1.1L.

My guess, the vendor of the Rover, was hoping for the magical two bidders; sadly they were both at home, feet up, supping a mug of Yorkshires finest, smoking a pipe while perusing the Daily Mail!
Its a rough looking Cat'd old car that doesnt look to be worth saving. I'd be surprised if the owner wasnt happy with that price.

That said, had it been a similar condition Ford there'd have been people wetting themselves to throw money at it.


I-am-the-reverend

1,171 posts

48 months

Tuesday 8th April
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The 75 wasn't a bad car. Not as good as a Mondeo, nowhere near as good as an Avensis, no more niggly that some stty E46 and far less prone to rot.

But who the hell wants one? A good diesel estate might be worth having but like old Mondeos, E46's etc they are just an old car requiring regular fixing. From memory, the early ones made at Cowley were MUCH better built than later ones from Brum. Nice V6 and a truly superb ride.