What's this 911?
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I recently did a "supercar experience day". I wasn't impressed by the "experience" but liked this 911 that I tried. I've fancied a 911 since I was a boy many years ago but have never actually driven one. I liked this one to the extent that I'm now contemplating buying one. It was well balanced, a nice amount of power without being stupid and just felt well made. It wasn't too blingy and just a nice place to be.
I've no clue on all the 911 models but I liked this one. Any idea what it was and roughly what age?
I've no clue on all the 911 models but I liked this one. Any idea what it was and roughly what age?
maz8062 said:
2009 -2012
Not clear whether it's a 2wd or 4wd (I'm guessing 2)
OP the car you drove most likely would not have been standard ie felted suspension (looks lower than standard) and my guess is its the 3.6 and not 3.8S
Hoofy said:
What didn't you like about the experience day then?
The instructors gave me absolutely no leeway with driving the car, told me when to accelerate, when to change gear, when and how hard to brake, exactly what line to take, they even had the mirrors set for the instructors and not the driver. This for me was going too far, it didn't feel right not using the mirrors. I tried to explain that I wasn't interested in finding the fastest lines etc, just wanted to get a feel for the car and the way it handled. I understand that they need to consider safety first and that they don't know all the different drivers' skill levels but they seemed to be doing their very best to remove all levels of control from us and by doing that it hugely detracted from the experience. It was no longer a driving experience, more a follow instructions to the letter and don't dare try to enjoy it experience.GT4P said:
maz8062 said:
2009 -2012
Not clear whether it's a 2wd or 4wd (I'm guessing 2)
OP the car you drove most likely would not have been standard ie felted suspension (looks lower than standard) and my guess is its the 3.6 and not 3.8S
Desiderata said:
Hoofy said:
What didn't you like about the experience day then?
The instructors gave me absolutely no leeway with driving the car, told me when to accelerate, when to change gear, when and how hard to brake, exactly what line to take, they even had the mirrors set for the instructors and not the driver. This for me was going too far, it didn't feel right not using the mirrors. I tried to explain that I wasn't interested in finding the fastest lines etc, just wanted to get a feel for the car and the way it handled. I understand that they need to consider safety first and that they don't know all the different drivers' skill levels but they seemed to be doing their very best to remove all levels of control from us and by doing that it hugely detracted from the experience. It was no longer a driving experience, more a follow instructions to the letter and don't dare try to enjoy it experience.Thanks everyone. I'm encouraged. It looks like I can have one myself for anything from £20k to £50k, depending on age/mileage/exact model.
It would be a wee retiral treat for special trips and I'd hope to pamper it and keep it for the rest of my driving life (probably another 20 years or so), so now to start looking for the best example I can find.
It would be a wee retiral treat for special trips and I'd hope to pamper it and keep it for the rest of my driving life (probably another 20 years or so), so now to start looking for the best example I can find.
An exciting journey lays ahead, go and speak with a reputable specialist and try a few out. Decide if your dream is a 'classic' or 'modern' and enjoy. Just keep a few thousand aside to keep on top of it.
In fairness to 'Experience Days' the instructors do not have an enviable job. I assume they are all ARDS instructors doing experience days for a little extra cash to pay the mortgage. I also assume they aren't the best paid gigs and the cars live a hard life.
Then in jumps a punter and you don't know their mindset, experience or ability.
If I were the instructor I'd just want to get out of the car...
If you were to work with the same instructor directly in your own car you would have a very different experience. A driver coach has been one of my better spends.
In fairness to 'Experience Days' the instructors do not have an enviable job. I assume they are all ARDS instructors doing experience days for a little extra cash to pay the mortgage. I also assume they aren't the best paid gigs and the cars live a hard life.
Then in jumps a punter and you don't know their mindset, experience or ability.
If I were the instructor I'd just want to get out of the car...
If you were to work with the same instructor directly in your own car you would have a very different experience. A driver coach has been one of my better spends.
maz8062 said:
Gen 2 is better than Gen 1 - in what way exactly?
Engine for a start ( not of the chocolate engine era 1996-2008 bar turbo/GT3)I have owned 986.2 (IMS failed at 13k and needed new engine) 987.1 and 987.2 and 981 all from new and the 987.2 was the sweetest not a 911 but same engine/ build.
So I would only buy a 997.2 of that era
Edited by GT4P on Tuesday 8th April 12:12
WombleCate said:
An exciting journey lays ahead, go and speak with a reputable specialist and try a few out. Decide if your dream is a 'classic' or 'modern' and enjoy. Just keep a few thousand aside to keep on top of it.
In fairness to 'Experience Days' the instructors do not have an enviable job. I assume they are all ARDS instructors doing experience days for a little extra cash to pay the mortgage. I also assume they aren't the best paid gigs and the cars live a hard life.
Then in jumps a punter and you don't know their mindset, experience or ability.
If I were the instructor I'd just want to get out of the car...
If you were to work with the same instructor directly in your own car you would have a very different experience. A driver coach has been one of my better spends.
As a punter , the more you can show the instructor you are sensible , the more they will let you drive. Ive had a couple of great experience days , when the instructor was rewlly getting me to push on in a 911 turbo In fairness to 'Experience Days' the instructors do not have an enviable job. I assume they are all ARDS instructors doing experience days for a little extra cash to pay the mortgage. I also assume they aren't the best paid gigs and the cars live a hard life.
Then in jumps a punter and you don't know their mindset, experience or ability.
If I were the instructor I'd just want to get out of the car...
If you were to work with the same instructor directly in your own car you would have a very different experience. A driver coach has been one of my better spends.
OP, the 997.2 is one of the good places on the 911 evolutionary journey. Don't underestimate the base 3.6 Carrera: the engine is a peach.
The next generation, the 991, provides more modernity, especially in terms of interior, though the 991.2 that has decent nav etc (and turbo engines for all regular models).
The next generation, the 991, provides more modernity, especially in terms of interior, though the 991.2 that has decent nav etc (and turbo engines for all regular models).
GT4P said:
Engine for a start ( not of the chocolate engine era 1996-2008 bar turbo/GT3)
I have owned 986.2 (IMS failed at 13k and needed new engine) 987.1 and 987.2 and 981 all from new and the 987.2 was the sweetest not a 911 but same engine/ build.
So I would only buy a 997.2 of that era
So you’ve never owned or driven a 997 of any description but you know which one is better. Ok I have owned 986.2 (IMS failed at 13k and needed new engine) 987.1 and 987.2 and 981 all from new and the 987.2 was the sweetest not a 911 but same engine/ build.
So I would only buy a 997.2 of that era
Edited by GT4P on Tuesday 8th April 12:12
Edited by maz8062 on Tuesday 8th April 12:34
Maxym said:
OP, the 997.2 is one of the good places on the 911 evolutionary journey. Don't underestimate the base 3.6 Carrera: the engine is a peach.
The next generation, the 991, provides more modernity, especially in terms of interior, though the 991.2 that has decent nav etc (and turbo engines for all regular models).
Thanks, I think I'll start by looking at 997.2s. I'm not fussed on modernity, sat nav etc and turbos, I think an NA 3.6 would be absolutely fine.The next generation, the 991, provides more modernity, especially in terms of interior, though the 991.2 that has decent nav etc (and turbo engines for all regular models).
maz8062 said:
Gen 2 is better than Gen 1 - in what way exactly?
My ex and I had a 997.1 then 997.2 and fianlly 991.1 911. The 997.2 was a nicer place to sit than the 997.1 and sounded better (both had PSE). When the 997.1 was traded there were also signs of some of the classic engine issues. The 997.2 also felt the better made of the two and is to my eye the better looking. It also had a much better infotainment setup - while very dated by todays standards, I could do more with the .2 unit, such as play music on it from my phone. Don't get me wrong, we liked both, but the gen 2 was the better car.
maz8062 said:
So you’ve never owned or driven a 997 of any description but you know which one is better. Ok
Actually I have driven 996, 997.1 997.2 and 992.1 GTs which can’t say I was thrilled with, but never owned a 911.Edited by maz8062 on Tuesday 8th April 12:34
But from 9x6.1 to 9x1.1 are shared platforms and parts
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