Giggle Fibre - installation without permission
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Evening all, in the local area, much to anger and frustration of local residents Giggle fibre have been installing telegraph poles to provide Fibre to residents.
Even tho Sky, BT and Virgin seem to provide underground without issue they have installed many (maybe 100+) poles across the town.
Residents tried involving councillors and MPs to block this but to no avail.
Anyway the unsightly poles are installed and it didn’t seem worth fighting given 100s or more active obje by its failed. But now I hear from passing neighbours some of the earlier affected streets are having these connections made when occupants aren’t out.
The wiring installed is an absolute mess, if I find a picture I’ll share but it is in some cases running down to front porches then up and down the walls.
It seems totally unlawful to me but apparently they have done this sneakily when they know houses are unoccupied.
Has anyone else been through this saga. I’m having to put together a sign revoking any rights to enter my property or install any equipment and looking for some time saving as I don’t speak legalise. I’ve spotted a few residents signs and they don’t really look too professional so far.
Even tho Sky, BT and Virgin seem to provide underground without issue they have installed many (maybe 100+) poles across the town.
Residents tried involving councillors and MPs to block this but to no avail.
Anyway the unsightly poles are installed and it didn’t seem worth fighting given 100s or more active obje by its failed. But now I hear from passing neighbours some of the earlier affected streets are having these connections made when occupants aren’t out.
The wiring installed is an absolute mess, if I find a picture I’ll share but it is in some cases running down to front porches then up and down the walls.
It seems totally unlawful to me but apparently they have done this sneakily when they know houses are unoccupied.
Has anyone else been through this saga. I’m having to put together a sign revoking any rights to enter my property or install any equipment and looking for some time saving as I don’t speak legalise. I’ve spotted a few residents signs and they don’t really look too professional so far.
vindaloo79 said:
Evening all, in the local area, much to anger and frustration of local residents Giggle fibre have been installing telegraph poles to provide Fibre to residents.
Even tho Sky, BT and Virgin seem to provide underground without issue they have installed many (maybe 100+) poles across the town.
Residents tried involving councillors and MPs to block this but to no avail.
Anyway the unsightly poles are installed and it didn’t seem worth fighting given 100s or more active obje by its failed. But now I hear from passing neighbours some of the earlier affected streets are having these connections made when occupants aren’t out.
The wiring installed is an absolute mess, if I find a picture I’ll share but it is in some cases running down to front porches then up and down the walls.
It seems totally unlawful to me but apparently they have done this sneakily when they know houses are unoccupied.
Has anyone else been through this saga. I’m having to put together a sign revoking any rights to enter my property or install any equipment and looking for some time saving as I don’t speak legalise. I’ve spotted a few residents signs and they don’t really look too professional so far.
As far as I’m aware, if there are already piles in the existing area, they are allowed to add additional without consent.Even tho Sky, BT and Virgin seem to provide underground without issue they have installed many (maybe 100+) poles across the town.
Residents tried involving councillors and MPs to block this but to no avail.
Anyway the unsightly poles are installed and it didn’t seem worth fighting given 100s or more active obje by its failed. But now I hear from passing neighbours some of the earlier affected streets are having these connections made when occupants aren’t out.
The wiring installed is an absolute mess, if I find a picture I’ll share but it is in some cases running down to front porches then up and down the walls.
It seems totally unlawful to me but apparently they have done this sneakily when they know houses are unoccupied.
Has anyone else been through this saga. I’m having to put together a sign revoking any rights to enter my property or install any equipment and looking for some time saving as I don’t speak legalise. I’ve spotted a few residents signs and they don’t really look too professional so far.
This is Leeds, one photo above was how it looks in Hull, but it looks equally bad in streets already done.
The real issue here is as a household we dealing with a death in the family and really can do without this nonsense if I catch some smart arse trying it on.
Hopefully a carefully worded note will avoid any unfavourable discussions.
The real issue here is as a household we dealing with a death in the family and really can do without this nonsense if I catch some smart arse trying it on.
Hopefully a carefully worded note will avoid any unfavourable discussions.
Looks like they ,are saying they cant use ducting as there isnt any. The alternative to poles would be them digging up every road to put in ducts.
We have had one firm use the existing Openreach duct which lead to accusations of them damaging the existing cables, and one firm install ducts all over the place.
As the old copper wire network is being closed down the fibre cables have to go somewhere although seems odd they are connecting them to houses. You would have thought they'd do that bin when they have a contract.
We have had one firm use the existing Openreach duct which lead to accusations of them damaging the existing cables, and one firm install ducts all over the place.
As the old copper wire network is being closed down the fibre cables have to go somewhere although seems odd they are connecting them to houses. You would have thought they'd do that bin when they have a contract.
Actual said:
Are you a customer of the service or are they attaching to your property as a convenient hop towards another location?
Detached and no plans to be a customer, just trying to get ahead of the problem with a small notice to prevent attempts to connect.It seems that photo I borrowed of the messy install was a terrace so they were taking liberties IIRC.
king chancers.The poles - the law allows for them to do this without PP and unfortunately not much can be done about the shanty look
Installing to houses - they might do this because a house in a terrace wants fibre and the line needs to go from the pole to an end property first then across to the next .. as I understand, they cannot do this without that property’s express permission and you can threaten to charge them / county court claim until they do something about it. (assuming you don’t want fibre, of course!)
Installing to houses - they might do this because a house in a terrace wants fibre and the line needs to go from the pole to an end property first then across to the next .. as I understand, they cannot do this without that property’s express permission and you can threaten to charge them / county court claim until they do something about it. (assuming you don’t want fibre, of course!)
essayer said:
The poles - the law allows for them to do this without PP and unfortunately not much can be done about the shanty look
There is however a (voluntary) code of practice around siting them: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/cabinet...Sadly some of these new operators just want to get installations done at the lowest possible cost, hence poles rather than underground. Had one near me seem to think that they’d get permission to bang a row of poles across my land… from the routing it was clear that they’d done a desk survey (at most) without considering the broader implications of their proposed route. They also seemed to think that they’d be able to do it without properly negotiating and/or paying for wayleaves.
“PRIVATE PROPERTY – NOTICE OF NON-CONSENT
To all telecommunications companies, contractors, or associated workers:
You do NOT have permission to enter this property or install any telecommunications equipment, including but not limited to fibre optic cables, connection boxes, or external cabling, on or around the premises.
Any attempt to access this property or carry out work without the express, written consent of the legal occupants will be treated as trespass and reported to the appropriate authorities.
All rights reserved. This notice serves as a formal revocation of any implied or assumed right of access.
Signed,
[Your Name or House Number]
Date: [Optional]
Additional Suggestions:
• Print it clearly on durable weatherproof paper or laminate it.
• Place it visibly near your front door, gate, or any access point.
• You might also want to email or post a copy directly to Giggle Fibre or their contractors, referencing your address, to establish a paper trail”
To all telecommunications companies, contractors, or associated workers:
You do NOT have permission to enter this property or install any telecommunications equipment, including but not limited to fibre optic cables, connection boxes, or external cabling, on or around the premises.
Any attempt to access this property or carry out work without the express, written consent of the legal occupants will be treated as trespass and reported to the appropriate authorities.
All rights reserved. This notice serves as a formal revocation of any implied or assumed right of access.
Signed,
[Your Name or House Number]
Date: [Optional]
Additional Suggestions:
• Print it clearly on durable weatherproof paper or laminate it.
• Place it visibly near your front door, gate, or any access point.
• You might also want to email or post a copy directly to Giggle Fibre or their contractors, referencing your address, to establish a paper trail”
The poles aren't necessarily something you're stuck with, another fibre company tried that idea near me, put the poles in, then a while later came back to pull them and run in duct instead. They'd thought they could do some bits on the cheap instead of ducting the lot and it didn't work.
Maybe related to it being tricky to actually run the catenaries without more poles than they'd installed (distance + route issues) & the layout meaning they'd have to run across non customer properties to do any hookups.
Plus I'm pretty sure no-one actually wanted either poles or wires running to their house when the competing services didn't need that.
Maybe related to it being tricky to actually run the catenaries without more poles than they'd installed (distance + route issues) & the layout meaning they'd have to run across non customer properties to do any hookups.
Plus I'm pretty sure no-one actually wanted either poles or wires running to their house when the competing services didn't need that.
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