RE: New 911 GT3 is quickest manual ever at the 'ring

RE: New 911 GT3 is quickest manual ever at the 'ring

Thursday 17th April

New 911 GT3 is quickest manual ever at the 'ring

The six-speed 992 goes sub-seven in remarkable lap. It's not one to miss...


Porsche’s obsession with - and dominance of - the million or so corners that make up the Nordschleife is just one of those things. It speaks to a Germanic preoccupation with numbers for one thing, certainly, but also a wider industry fascination for benchmarking - especially where very expensive, circuit-developed cars are concerned. No variant of the 911 GT3 is deemed to have earned its spurs if it hasn’t a) trounced its predecessor at the Nurburgring, or b) beaten the latest version of whatever model Porsche considers a direct rival. This is the way of things. 

As a result, with every fraction of a second precious, Porsche doesn’t typically concern itself with advertising the lap times of lesser derivatives - especially those that do without a PDK. Even a 911 as unquestionably great as the current S/T did not get an official score (even though GT supremo Andreas Preuninger conceded that Porsche had recorded one, just for its own satisfaction). But with the six-speed version of the very latest 992 GT3 as popular as ever - “and more and more often we are asked by these customers how fast a 911 GT3 with manual transmission would be on the Nordschleife” - the manufacturer finally opted to give Jörg Bergmeister’s left leg a job to do. 

Unsurprisingly, the result has less to do with satisfying buyer curiosity than it did with claiming yet another title. Being the fastest manual production car at the Nurburgring is exactly the caption you want under a picture of the 992 GT3, a claim made all the more real by the fact that the presence of a clutch pedal did not prevent the car from clocking a 6:56.294 lap. Which is startling not just because it ushers the manual GT3 into the hallowed sub-seven-minute club, but because it proved faster than the 826hp Mustang GTD that Ford sent to the Rhineland in December. It’s 3.633 seconds quicker than a 992.1 GT3 with a PDK. 

"The new 911 GT3 inspires even more confidence at the limit than the previous model. I was faster in almost every corner," said Bergmeister. "We learned a lot from the 911 GT3 RS, especially with the chassis. The car is much more stable on bumps and over the curbs. And thanks to the eight-per-cent-shorter gear ratio, there is noticeably more drive from the rear axle when accelerating with the same engine power. Even if it would have been a few seconds faster with the seven-speed PDK – with the six-speed manual gearbox I definitely had more to do on the fast lap – and it was therefore even more fun.” 

There you have it in a nutshell. Of course, the nutshell also featured the optional Weissach package - which is priced from £19,531 if you want the roll cage - and the gluey Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 R tyres, and the lap occurred in what seems like almost perfect conditions (an ambient temperature of 12 degrees, with track temperature at 27 degrees) but let’s take nothing away from a car that also does without the more sophisticated electronically controlled limited-slip diff. Nor should we take anything away from Bergmeister; it’s a pleasure to watch the man work. 

Interestingly, Porsche declined to name the ‘competitor’ it nudged into second place. "When we decided to set the official lap time of the new 911 GT3 with manual transmission, we naturally looked at who was at the top of the leaderboard," reckoned Preuninger - like his memory needed refreshing. The unofficial 7:01.300 set by Lance David Arnold in a crowdfunded Dodge Viper ACR has likely ticked Porsche off for the better part of a decade. Finally, the natural order has been restored. 


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Jermy Claxon

Original Poster:

3,067 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th April
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The level of performance available to anyone with a couple of hundred grand these days is absolutely staggering. At some point my skills peaked and technology didn't, and now I just look at these hot laps with a sense of the ever-widening chasm of skill between me and modern cars.


Debaser

6,899 posts

274 months

Thursday 17th April
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It looks like brilliant fun!

carjack

1 posts

1 month

Thursday 17th April
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Awesome to have Porsche take the record, but I can't help but be a little sad that it got taken from the Gen V Viper ACR. It's such an amazing display of American engineering.

MDL111

7,488 posts

190 months

Thursday 17th April
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wonder if the Viper could get the same time on the latest tyres

CKY

2,201 posts

28 months

Thursday 17th April
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What's the rev limit on that thing? That rev counter overlay makes it look like it's going to about 9.5K RPM eek

Dg504

310 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th April
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The throw of that gearbox looks snickety-boo.

Would love one (one day!)

Dg504

310 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th April
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The throw of that gearbox looks snickety-boo.

Would love one (one day!)

ManyMotors

862 posts

111 months

Thursday 17th April
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All of Porsche's doctors hope that this will help increase vehicle sales outside the United States. Maybe. Maybe not.

RB Will

10,212 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th April
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MDL111 said:
wonder if the Viper could get the same time on the latest tyres
New tyres, the track has been improved too, flattened out in some places and better tarmac, put a recent pro driver in the Viper and I reckon you would get your 5 seconds.

howardhughes

1,200 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th April
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It was only a matter of time before our German friends were going to give two fingers back at the yanks. Well done to Porsche.

cayman-black

13,073 posts

229 months

Thursday 17th April
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Lets see how quick these sell out now.

cerb4.5lee

36,055 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th April
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I'm not usually bothered about these videos, but I will give this a watch later with it having a manual gearbox though. You just don't get many performance cars with manual gearboxes anymore really.

Slowlygettingit

758 posts

54 months

Thursday 17th April
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What I love about the manual Porsche gt cars is that I think on a real world drive I could get close to the limits for a fraction of a second a handful of times on each drive - Unlike the latest interchangeable mega horsepower hypercar.
A bit like these average club level golfers that keep playing because they hit a couple of great drives and sink a couple of tricky puts each round.
And that’s what I aim for in my gt4 each drive. A couple of amazing corners and a few fantastic heel and toes, and a couple of blasts to the redline on well sighted plod free straights.

BunkMoreland

1,740 posts

20 months

Thursday 17th April
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No passenger seat confused

I mean at least TRY to make it "road spec"

TBH I admire the skill of the driver, but these 'ring videos dont have the effect on me they used to 10-15 years ago...

GreatScott2016

1,774 posts

101 months

Thursday 17th April
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Jermy Claxon said:
The level of performance available to anyone with a couple of hundred grand these days is absolutely staggering. At some point my skills peaked and technology didn't, and now I just look at these hot laps with a sense of the ever-widening chasm of skill between me and modern cars.
Yep, totally agree with you here.

86wasagoodyear

674 posts

109 months

Thursday 17th April
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Oh my days (as my teenagers say). Things are happening seriously quickly there. I've driven the circuit a few times (in much lesser machinery) and, blimey charlie, that is committed. The way he dives the car into the downhill corner entries & the Karussell is amazing. What a laugh with a manual beast like this haha.

blasos

407 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th April
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Article said:
and dominance of - the million or so corners that make up the Nordschleife
Dominance... yet the Viper held the record for the past 8 years. Makes sense.

Clivey

5,353 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th April
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Jermy Claxon said:
The level of performance available to anyone with a couple of hundred grand these days is absolutely staggering. At some point my skills peaked and technology didn't, and now I just look at these hot laps with a sense of the ever-widening chasm of skill between me and modern cars.
Here is your challenge and the fun therein. wink

S600BSB

6,370 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th April
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Brilliant.

M138

361 posts

4 months

Thursday 17th April
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S600BSB said:
Brilliant.