Le Shuttle rule change voiding tickets for late arrival

Le Shuttle rule change voiding tickets for late arrival

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andygo

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Thursday 17th April
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Apologies if this is old news, but read about this in the Telegraph today.

It seems that Le Shuttle have changed their rules to "give customers more flexibilty and control'.

The upshot of this appears to be that if you arrive less than 60 mins before your booked departure time, they will void your ticket and require you to purchase a new one at that days rate.

That seems to me a bit naughty given that they have in the past just popped you on the next crossing or even an earlier one to suit themselves. It's a bit of a worry given the impossibility of accurately predicting a travel arrival time in this country and the general length of journey to get to Calais on ones return, distances easily and often in the hundreds of miles.

Quite how Le sttle can state the policy change offers more flexibilty and control escapes me.

Article here: https://archive.ph/a911M

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,947 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th April
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Sounds offside to me.

I don't think it applies to the Flexiplus tickets though (if that's any consolation)

Doofus

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185 months

Thursday 17th April
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andygo said:
Apologies if this is old news, but read about this in the Telegraph today.

It seems that Le Shuttle have changed their rules to "give customers more flexibilty and control'.

The upshot of this appears to be that if you arrive less than 60 mins before your booked departure time, they will void your ticket and require you to purchase a new one at that days rate.

That seems to me a bit naughty given that they have in the past just popped you on the next crossing or even an earlier one to suit themselves. It's a bit of a worry given the impossibility of accurately predicting a travel arrival time in this country and the general length of journey to get to Calais on ones return, distances easily and often in the hundreds of miles.

Quite how Le sttle can state the policy change offers more flexibilty and control escapes me.

Article here: https://archive.ph/a911M
This only applies to daytrip or overnight bookings. For evrything else, you can be up to an hour late.

andygo

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Thursday 17th April
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Sounds offside to me.

I don't think it applies to the Flexiplus tickets though (if that's any consolation)
Sounds like a ploy to get people to buy flexiplus which is generally a hefty premium over normal price.

@doofus still a bit uneccessary though IMHO.

Edited by andygo on Thursday 17th April 17:59

drmike37

545 posts

68 months

Thursday 17th April
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It does allow flexibility and control. For them.

Doofus

29,942 posts

185 months

Thursday 17th April
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andygo said:
@doofus still a bit uneccessary though IMHO.
I agree, but I thought the thread should tell the entire story. smile

Nick Forest

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95 months

Thursday 17th April
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You’ll need to factor in the total sthousery that is Operation Brock on the M20 that appears at random times

andygo

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Thursday 17th April
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@doofus- yes often more to these click bait stories.

andygo

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Thursday 17th April
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@doofus- yes often more to these click bait stories.

Dingu

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42 months

Thursday 17th April
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andygo said:
Sounds like a ploy to get people to buy flexiplus which is generally a hefty premium over normal price.

@doofus still a bit uneccessary though IMHO.

Edited by andygo on Thursday 17th April 17:59
Are you saying you want the flexibility without buying a ticket that costs more to allow for it?

andygo

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Thursday 17th April
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Dingu said:
Are you saying you want the flexibility without buying a ticket that costs more to allow for it?
No, I'm saying that it seems a bit harsh to remove the ability to be a bit late and still cross rather than have your ticket voided. A more reasonable approach would be to use the prepaid price to be credited to the new day rate cost if you were late.

AndrewIC

590 posts

180 months

Friday 18th April
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I’ve started using flexiplus for this reason, it is a bit of a rip-off, but takes any stress out of the trip and you generally drive straight onto a train. Having said that, it was a complete shambles at the end of February half-term.

When I last looked, the cheapo ticket said departure time plus 60mins, middle ticket stated departure time plus 4hrs. So it may be correct that they don’t want you appearing hours before the booked slot and would rather stick you on a later train.

stinkyspanner

880 posts

89 months

Friday 18th April
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That's very naughty of them, I use The Euro tunnel for day trips on business 2 or 3 times a year and sometimes I don't make my slot. I'll have to buy flexiplus now which I guess is the point, but it feels like a bit of a rip off, particularly as the 'old' system seemed to work well. Just another example of common sense and pragmatism being removed from daily life

interstellar

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158 months

Friday 18th April
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I was 90 minutes to my tunnel two weeks ago and they just put me on the next one, no questions and my ticket was one way.

Doofus

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Friday 18th April
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interstellar said:
I was 90 minutes to my tunnel two weeks ago and they just put me on the next one, no questions and my ticket was one way.
The new terms don't apply to your crossing.

981Boxess

11,670 posts

270 months

Sunday 20th April
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andygo said:
Dingu said:
Are you saying you want the flexibility without buying a ticket that costs more to allow for it?
No, I'm saying that it seems a bit harsh to remove the ability to be a bit late and still cross rather than have your ticket voided. A more reasonable approach would be to use the prepaid price to be credited to the new day rate cost if you were late.
I agree - just because you can do something it doesn't justify it, but that is what happens when you don't have any competition. They combine three train times regularly, so two of them are often delayed, so it is ok for them to be late, it would seem flexibility only works one way.

Thankfully we still have the ferry option, last month I crossed with P&O, next month also with P&O, with speedy boarding it works for us and cheaper too.
I will only use Le Shaftall if I am forced to and only as a last resort, awful company to deal with.

rhamnousia5

262 posts

6 months

Sunday 20th April
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stinkyspanner said:
That's very naughty of them, I use The Euro tunnel for day trips on business 2 or 3 times a year and sometimes I don't make my slot. I'll have to buy flexiplus now which I guess is the point, but it feels like a bit of a rip off, particularly as the 'old' system seemed to work well. Just another example of common sense and pragmatism being removed from daily life
Have you tried turning up late for a plane?

stinkyspanner

880 posts

89 months

Sunday 20th April
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rhamnousia5 said:
stinkyspanner said:
That's very naughty of them, I use The Euro tunnel for day trips on business 2 or 3 times a year and sometimes I don't make my slot. I'll have to buy flexiplus now which I guess is the point, but it feels like a bit of a rip off, particularly as the 'old' system seemed to work well. Just another example of common sense and pragmatism being removed from daily life
Have you tried turning up late for a plane?
Very good! It's not really the same though is it? For one thing everyone is going the same route and the Euro tunnel has always recognised that some people will be early and some late and has managed to get people across efficiently if there's capacity. Now it just seems like a money grab

rhamnousia5

262 posts

6 months

Sunday 20th April
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stinkyspanner said:
Very good! It's not really the same though is it? For one thing everyone is going the same route and the Euro tunnel has always recognised that some people will be early and some late and has managed to get people across efficiently if there's capacity. Now it just seems like a money grab
I’m not sure it’s that simple. If everyone knows they can turn up whenever they want then it becomes a logistical nightmare to manage. Makes far more sense to have a lower priced fixed journey only ticket and a dearer more flexible one, probably with discounts based on how early you buy. That’s how most other forms of mass transport works. That includes the whole of the rail network in the U.K.

Hugo Stiglitz

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223 months

Sunday 20th April
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Reminds me of the time I rocked up early and the lady said 'would you like to buy a crossing now that's only £25'?

OK. As soon as I went past the booth. Bang a huge nakimg queue..


They couldn't care less when I raised this tactic later...