14 Months is the new 14 years
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Was reading an article this morning that was quoting Sam Coates "Deputy Political Editor at Sky News"
It was saying that the current Labour Government is heading towards becoming totally dysfunctional by the end of this summer.
The article has laid blame at the feet of No. 10 and specifically McSweeney saying that Government Ministers have now become just conduits between N0. 10 and their own departments.
It was saying that the current Labour Government is heading towards becoming totally dysfunctional by the end of this summer.
The article has laid blame at the feet of No. 10 and specifically McSweeney saying that Government Ministers have now become just conduits between N0. 10 and their own departments.
I'd like to think I follow politics reasonably closely and one observation is that regardless of tie-colour, the day-to-day of running a government seems to be damn near impossible in today's world.
i.e. We've somehow created an unworkable system where the only goal is to tear down the current government - The politicians themselves, the journalists, the social media backlash, the civil service, the unions, the rolling news and commentary etc that we now have makes me wonder if even if you took the most competent group of people we have in the country and put them in the goldfish bowl, it'd still come crashing down in approximately the same amount of time.
We have the situation where most people would say "You couldn't pay me enough to be a government minister".... Given that, it's no wonder that we only get insane narcissists applying.........
i.e. We've somehow created an unworkable system where the only goal is to tear down the current government - The politicians themselves, the journalists, the social media backlash, the civil service, the unions, the rolling news and commentary etc that we now have makes me wonder if even if you took the most competent group of people we have in the country and put them in the goldfish bowl, it'd still come crashing down in approximately the same amount of time.
We have the situation where most people would say "You couldn't pay me enough to be a government minister".... Given that, it's no wonder that we only get insane narcissists applying.........
Greenmantle said:
Was reading an article this morning that was quoting Sam Coates "Deputy Political Editor at Sky News"
It was saying that the current Labour Government is heading towards becoming totally dysfunctional by the end of this summer.
The article has laid blame at the feet of No. 10 and specifically McSweeney saying that Government Ministers have now become just conduits between N0. 10 and their own departments.
Maybe take with a pinch of salt. It was saying that the current Labour Government is heading towards becoming totally dysfunctional by the end of this summer.
The article has laid blame at the feet of No. 10 and specifically McSweeney saying that Government Ministers have now become just conduits between N0. 10 and their own departments.
IMHO what Sam Coates said in his Podcast, and what has been reported by the likes of Richard Murphy (Corbyn's former 'informal' advisor) differ and lack nuance and context. Of course others have their own agenda.
This Government like every other has it's tribes and SKS is way to close to centre for them, the benefit cuts don't hurt the right people for them, the increased spending on defence is war mongering etc.
Labour knows they've got 4 years left to turn things around, they took over a s
tshow and people wanted change quick, even if Labour told them it wasn't going to be. People are almost as fed up and angry as they were last year when they could point at the state of the Tories. The local elections were bad, but not unexpected. They face more challenges, they can't report a good-news story at the moment without being smeared, again goes with the territory, but most of the media isn't their friend. Does anyone else think it's odd that on the day they announced the trade deal with India, they were forced to deny they were going to U-turn on winter fuel payments? Terrible timing they have to drag that up again on the day they've done something.
Reform and the Twitter Nimrods are going to find something to shout about with the US trade deal, give it time.
I'd bet SKS will lead them in the next GE, if things have improved and the future looks brighter, they'll win, if things are bad and look to be getting worse, they'll lose - to who? God knows, but I do know that things like Government 'wet work' isn't a real thing in the UK, because Farage would have had a terrible 'accident' by now.
It's not that we expected good things in a shirt space of time it's we expected the government not to make it worse....PIP, WFA, NI, Chagos Island, twx break for Indian workers, more illegal channel crossings, riots an prison for people, 2 tier sentences, rape gangs not investigated, mps beating up voters, mps linked to fraud in Bangladesh, mos lying about thier CV.
Now in general all of the above could have been put agaist thr Tories (in a round about way). We hoped that none of these things would happen....but they all did in under a year
Now in general all of the above could have been put agaist thr Tories (in a round about way). We hoped that none of these things would happen....but they all did in under a year
fat80b said:
I'd like to think I follow politics reasonably closely and one observation is that regardless of tie-colour, the day-to-day of running a government seems to be damn near impossible in today's world.
i.e. We've somehow created an unworkable system where the only goal is to tear down the current government - The politicians themselves, the journalists, the social media backlash, the civil service, the unions, the rolling news and commentary etc that we now have makes me wonder if even if you took the most competent group of people we have in the country and put them in the goldfish bowl, it'd still come crashing down in approximately the same amount of time.
We have the situation where most people would say "You couldn't pay me enough to be a government minister".... Given that, it's no wonder that we only get insane narcissists applying.........
Spot on assessment I would sayi.e. We've somehow created an unworkable system where the only goal is to tear down the current government - The politicians themselves, the journalists, the social media backlash, the civil service, the unions, the rolling news and commentary etc that we now have makes me wonder if even if you took the most competent group of people we have in the country and put them in the goldfish bowl, it'd still come crashing down in approximately the same amount of time.
We have the situation where most people would say "You couldn't pay me enough to be a government minister".... Given that, it's no wonder that we only get insane narcissists applying.........
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