Using the bulk clearing court / Moneyclaim?

Using the bulk clearing court / Moneyclaim?

Author
Discussion

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Friday 9th May
quotequote all
Just wondering if it is a worthwhile experience? We took delivery of a child's bed from a company online that has a large website of beds and furniture. Unfortunately I didn't check reviews as none were apparent. The bed arrived this week with a couple of small parts damaged / split. I don't know yet how significant they are to building it, however the company has no customer service department. No phone number, no help system, a live chat function that never works and an email address that you send multiple emails to and get a copy and paste response. I then looked online at reviews to find literally everyone who buys has the same experience.

They have an address / unit in New Romney but I am just trying to work out the best approach to get a replacement part.

OutInTheShed

11,167 posts

40 months

Friday 9th May
quotequote all
Did you pay by credit card?

A phone call to the card co often either jolts the retailer into sorting things out, or produces a refund.

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Friday 9th May
quotequote all
No - direct debit.

Its a catastrophe.

I might open my open company selling nothing - seems to work.

Company has no contact means. Just cut and paste nonsense.

https://www.noaandnani.co.uk/?gad_source=1&gad...

TonyRPH

13,295 posts

182 months

Friday 9th May
quotequote all
Ubiquitous2024 said:
No - direct debit.

Its a catastrophe.

I might open my open company selling nothing - seems to work.

Company has no contact means. Just cut and paste nonsense.

https://www.noaandnani.co.uk/?gad_source=1&gad...
I found this:

Jadebay Ltd. 01303 872957. Call · Website. Unit 16 Mountfield Rd, New Romney, TN28 8LH

Jadebay appears to be one and the same company.

https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

Their site has this in the bottom left corner:

Reg office: Unit 16 Mountfield Rd, New Romney, TN28 8LH
Company Reg No. 04112177 VAT No. 7833291 12

Company Reg No. 04112177 links back to Jadebay

Edited by TonyRPH on Friday 9th May 22:44

E-bmw

10,956 posts

166 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all
TonyRPH said:
I found this:

Jadebay Ltd. 01303 872957. Call · Website. Unit 16 Mountfield Rd, New Romney, TN28 8LH

Jadebay appears to be one and the same company.

https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

https://find-and-update.company-information.servic...

Their site has this in the bottom left corner:

Reg office: Unit 16 Mountfield Rd, New Romney, TN28 8LH
Company Reg No. 04112177 VAT No. 7833291 12

Company Reg No. 04112177 links back to Jadebay

Edited by TonyRPH on Friday 9th May 22:44
Beat me to it.

There is also an email address & contact me page, but obviously as you have found, they don't seem to like to answer.

support@noaandnani.co.uk

The link to Jadebay is confirmed on their Ts & Cs page also.

Edited by E-bmw on Saturday 10th May 07:45

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all
Yes I have seen the address but I don't see what I can do with it. I just find it fascinating that most companies are able to trade, rip people off, and have no comeback.

Mandat

4,216 posts

252 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all
I'm defending a small claim against my company, which was issued in 2019, so it's been 6 years now and still no sign of a court date.

This is the London County Court, so don't know about other regional courts.

TonyRPH

13,295 posts

182 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all
Ubiquitous2024 said:
Yes I have seen the address but I don't see what I can do with it. I just find it fascinating that most companies are able to trade, rip people off, and have no comeback.
But did you see the phone number I found?

Jadebay Ltd. 01303 872957

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all
TonyRPH said:
But did you see the phone number I found?

Jadebay Ltd. 01303 872957
Yes, however phonelines are closed / don't work - all the reviews say the same.

808 Estate

2,382 posts

105 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all

Jadebay Limited Director Email and Telephone

Kris Tolofson Director

Email kris@jadebay.co.uk


Postal Address Unit 16, Mountfield Road, New Romney, Kent, United Kingdom, TN28 8LHM
Company Number 04112177C
Company Status Active (Established 22/11/2000)


Related lists UK Companies (J)




KungFuPanda

4,510 posts

184 months

Saturday 10th May
quotequote all
Send them a written letter before action asking for whatever resolution you would like. If no response, issue the claim against the registered address.

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
Just an update, I called citizens advice and had a fairly decent conversation with them. Basically nothing can be done. Trading standards are overwhelmed with work and not interested, they said I could write a letter as per the address given but it would rely on them replying / responding which they likely won't. I have been using the support email address to try and contact them but it just generates auto responses that goes round in circles and after 27 emails I have not progressed anything. Phone line is non existent and switched off. Interestingly they sell on Amazon and jn B and Q, the reviews are the same across the board. I was also advised to do a charge back through the bank which I have tried, but there is a long winded process to this and I suspect this will also be unsuccessful.

What's really sad is this is a child's bed, and there is a disability involved, so it has had an impact. Seems like companies can just do what they want these days with no real consequence. I am going to have to chalk it up as money lost.

Roy the Boy

470 posts

235 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all

I came across this - not sure if the number will work or anyone will answer?

NOA AND NANI LIMITED
Address:
Unit 16, Mountfield Road, New Romney, Kent England, TN28 8LH
Phone
01797 366602

Sir Bagalot

6,760 posts

195 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
Debit card chargeback isn't a pain but there are timeframes.

I have successfully done some, money credited straight back to me but I was advised they could do a grabback for x months.

Write them a letter giving 14 days to supply replacement parts, if they can't meet this then please arrange collection and a refund.

No joy then chargeback

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
None of the phone numbers work, there are others too. They have no phone lines.

Re collection and refund, also not possible - all the reviews online where people have had a collection have then gone onto not receive a refund. So they are then minus goods and money. Having said that they seem to be one of the companies who are able to manipulate their online presence as the review pages that come back on searches change on a daily basis, and when I find sites with poor reviews and write ups they disappear. Plenty of negative articles available on the likes of MSE, Mumsnet and other known websites. Their companies house page also has 3 claims against them.

QBee

21,664 posts

158 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
Glue the broken bits back together and build the bed.

In future only buy anything online using Amazon Prime.....not because of next day delivery, but because almost everything I have bought that way has allowed no questions asked refunds within 30 days, the refunds coming from Amazon themselves. I have always been refunded, all I have to do is the returns paperwork clicking..

I too have been stung buying from a Facebook advert. Yes, the shirts I bought arrived, but the quality was appalling.
I could return them, if I could find a courier who would deliver to an address in China with no phone number and for less than the goods had cost me.
I chalked that up to experience and vowed never to buy from Facebook adverts etc again,


Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
That's the annoying thing, I am OCD about this kind of thing, and normally I actually physically call any company before I buy anything in order to prove the system works (unless Amazon or Ebay). I never have these issues as I trust nobody and no process, as it always lets you down. This was just a punt in good faith because my daughter chose it looking online. It's just confirmed that I should never deviate from my existing processes.

QBee

21,664 posts

158 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
Ubiquitous2024 said:
That's the annoying thing, I am OCD about this kind of thing, and normally I actually physically call any company before I buy anything in order to prove the system works (unless Amazon or Ebay). I never have these issues as I trust nobody and no process, as it always lets you down. This was just a punt in good faith because my daughter chose it looking online. It's just confirmed that I should never deviate from my existing processes.
Glad to hear you are careful.
I have to keep reminding myself almost daily not to buy stuff I see on Facebook, even if the seller calls himself names like "Sara London", so making me think I am dealing with someone in the UK. But even dealing with UK companies doesn't make you safe it would seem.

Can you repair the kit and build it, or is it too badly broken?

Pro Bono

663 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th May
quotequote all
Ubiquitous2024 said:
Their companies house page also has 3 claims against them.
They aren't claims, they're `charges' - secured loans that have been made to the company.

The company is certainly very profitable, and worth suing, but how much did you pay them?

Ubiquitous2024

Original Poster:

329 posts

10 months

Thursday 15th May
quotequote all
I see. 300 quid, I will just try and crack on with what we have left and see how we go.