Lotus Esprit S3 2.2 - advice please

Lotus Esprit S3 2.2 - advice please

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PGNSagaris

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3,038 posts

180 months

Saturday 10th May
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Getting almost uncontrollable urges for a Guigaro Esprit and like the idea of a late, non turbo car on account of weight and complexity. To my mind.

Anyway. I am off to see one shortly, an ‘85 car on 60,000 miles, 5 owners and has recent service and clean MOT. A lot spent in last few 2-3 years, not far off £10k.

Seller asking £25k. Initially said it was worth £30k

This is a whole new world for me and I have no real idea if that is value or not. Could someone advise

Thank you in advance.

996Type

961 posts

166 months

Saturday 10th May
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Values for good ones still remain strong, its worth going over to the Lotus Forums as there is plenty of specific advise there.

If you can get a PPI do so, as while they aren’t complicated cars, they need to be properly set up to get the best from them.

Check the belts have been done and the condition of the chassis. It should be galvanised at that age but it can still rust.

You have a few specialists down your neck of the woods.

PGNSagaris

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3,038 posts

180 months

Saturday 10th May
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Ah, thank you. Will ask re belts and a PPI is a good idea. I always plan to have one then lose all willpower and just make an offer.

Will keep you updated

Matty3

1,236 posts

98 months

Saturday 10th May
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Anyone reckoning they are not complicated is having a bit of a laugh smile - owned 4 Esprits over the years. S3 Turbo was the best and least expensive, but I considered I was fortunate with that one smile - S3 will have a galvanised chassis - but they do still rot. The 2.2 910 engine is an absolute jewel if running well, but listen for any untoward noises - suggest you get someone who knows Esprits to give it a onceover. Buy a good one motoring heaven, buy a bad one....best of fortune - looking at buying another myself. smile

PGNSagaris

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3,038 posts

180 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Bought it !!

Going away on holiday now for a while but hoping to collect on 4th June and take up to Donington.


Hereandthere

123 posts

63 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Still looks modern after all those years!

BertBert

20,269 posts

225 months

Thursday 22nd May
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PGNSagaris said:
Bought it !!

Going away on holiday now for a while but hoping to collect on 4th June and take up to Donington.
Fabulous! What price did you settle on in the end?

PGNSagaris

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180 months

Thursday 22nd May
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Morning. Paid all the money. I’m a terrible negotiator!

RS_MAN_CHILD

550 posts

283 months

Friday 23rd May
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Great cars!

As a priority get the fuel tanks looked at though they rot on most Esprits & big bills if they do that! Engine out job to replace Lotus of that era treated them as an afterthought with minimal paint protection against rusting so if not already replaced they need doing before you drive it really for safety reasons!!

SW Lotus are one of the best for doing this type of job they work on all Lotus but love Esprit's & have extensive experience in full restorations as well as fuel tank replacements!

https://www.swlcperformance.com/

PGNSagaris

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3,038 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd May
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Thank you so much !!

Matty3

1,236 posts

98 months

Friday 23rd May
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Best colour - most stunning looking Esprit of the lot. Enjoy smile

PGNSagaris

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180 months

Friday 23rd May
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Thank you beer

Panamax

6,012 posts

48 months

Friday 23rd May
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If that's a non-turbo car, why's it got a turbo body kit?

Panamax

6,012 posts

48 months

Friday 23rd May
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... and apparently no fuel filler on the passenger side. At least, not one that's visible in the photo.

If you have a link to the seller's listing it would be useful to see.

PGNSagaris

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180 months

Friday 23rd May
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Panamax said:
If that's a non-turbo car, why's it got a turbo body kit?
Good spot. It has had the front spoiler and sills from the Turbo added but no other bodywork. And has both fuel filler caps

It was never publicly listed for sale…came through an introduction

Edited by PGNSagaris on Friday 23 May 22:02

Panamax

6,012 posts

48 months

Saturday 24th May
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As someone has already said, fuel tanks tend to rot.
Keep a careful eye on condition of the rubber fuel lines.The carbs are right above the distributor so any leaks can easily start a big fire. Many Esprits have ended their lives this way.
The windscreen is a structural part of the car, adding stiffness to a fairly flexible fibreglass body. The radiator can fail due to flexing which twists the core between its side mountings.
If your glass roof panel doesn't rattle, I'll be astounded.
If there's a green LCD digital clock above the rear view mirror I'll be astounded if it can actually tell the time.
The "starting" procedures are nothing like a modern fuel injected car and take a bit of learning,
Cold start - you need to prime the carbs with a good jab on the throttle before cranking. (The accelerator pumps will give a useful squirt of fuel. Don't do it twice or you'll flood the engine.) The alternative is to give it full choke but that might not be enough on its own.
Hot starting - press the throttle slowly to the floor before cranking and hold it there while cranking until the engine fires. (You don't want any squirt of fuel from the accelerator pumps or you'll flood the engine.) These cars are notorious for hot starting difficulties.
Enjoy!

Panamax

6,012 posts

48 months

Saturday 24th May
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If you can find one at a sensible price, this is the book you want,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lotus-Esprit-Official-Bri...

Otherwise this one, by the same author, is well worthwhile,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lotus-Esprit-Complete-Jer...


PGNSagaris

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3,038 posts

180 months

Saturday 24th May
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Amazing information. Thank you so so much.