Why is there still no way to stop cars?

[Frimley111R]

I was watching a vid on another thread where the Police chased an Astra. Despite sitting close behind it there was nothing the Police were able to do to stop it.

How, after decades is it that they still have nothing that can stop a car when they are right behind it. All they can do is sit behind it and flash blue lights? With all the technology we have these days there's nothing that can even a runaway car down.

[paul_c123]

Type "arkensas state police pit meneuver" (American sp) into Youtube. They have no policy of not using forceful chase tactics to stop cars above a certain speed, or when there's other hazards on the roads etc. It shows it IS possible to stop a car in pretty much any circumstances, but it often results in the death of the suspect.

Our police aren't that heavy-handed, that's why they can't/won't/don't stop in similar situations.

[MontyPythonX]

paul_c123 said:

Type "arkensas state police pit meneuver" (American sp) into Youtube. They have no policy of not using forceful chase tactics to stop cars above a certain speed, or when there's other hazards on the roads etc. It shows it IS possible to stop a car in pretty much any circumstances, but it often results in the death of the suspect.

Our police aren't that heavy-handed, that's why they can't/won't/don't stop in similar situations.

I suspect the OP was meaning more like an electronic way of disabling a car to bring it to a controlled stop?
If i remember correctly, they had something like it on 2 Fast 2 Furious, didn't they?

[RDMcG]

There is always the grappler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikp73-aH2UI

[Frimley111R]

MontyPythonX said:

I suspect the OP was meaning more like an electronic way of disabling a car to bring it to a controlled stop?
If i remember correctly, they had something like it on 2 Fast 2 Furious, didn't they?

They did. I even asked on here if it was an actual thing but apparently not.

[Frimley111R]

RDMcG said:

There is always the grappler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikp73-aH2UI

Yeah, seen that. The bit that sticks out at the front looks quite cumbersome but ideally something like that.

[POIDH]

MontyPythonX said:

I suspect the OP was meaning more like an electronic way of disabling a car to bring it to a controlled stop?
If i remember correctly, they had something like it on 2 Fast 2 Furious, didn't they?

Indeed that was my take as well - have we not invented a piece of technology which can stop a car from a distance behind?

I think the issue is that anything which somehow disables electronics, pops a tyre or locks up a wheel, or connects two vehicles together is going to lead to a lot of accidents when brakes fail, lights go off in the dark, vehicle gets launched into the wall etc....

Edited by POIDH on Tuesday 13th May 16:22

[bigothunter]

A new proposed law will require every vehicle sold after 2026 to have a ‘kill switch’ that can shut down the engine remotely. America today - Britain tomorrow.

https://mycarvoice.com/news/your-privacy-at-risk-k...

https://www.keltekinc.com/remote-vehicle-shutdown-...

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Autos/story?id=370...

Edited by bigothunter on Tuesday 13th May 17:28

[EmailAddress]

... and about two months later there will be universal AliExpress kill switches.

Terrible idea, for such an insignificant number of problems.

[bigothunter]

Another Safety Tool which can prevent speeding:

[mikees]

https://www.teledyne-e2v.com/en-us/solutions/rf-po...


There are ‘cough smaller versions available. They have a tendency to hurt pacemakers etc tho.

[biglove1772]

RDMcG said:

There is always the grappler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikp73-aH2UI

That fella sounds like Mr Garrison.

[bergclimber34]

Usually they cannot do what they want without endangering other road users or themselves or sadly the inhabitants of the bloody car Note Chris Kaba thread here. A very extreme example.

My father was plod and told me decades ago they were never allowed to pressure drivers in towns and the like, they could in the open. Fair game I guess, but actually stopping a car is more difficult that it looks

[Derek Smith]

bergclimber34 said:

Usually they cannot do what they want without endangering other road users or themselves or sadly the inhabitants of the bloody car Note Chris Kaba thread here. A very extreme example.

My father was plod and told me decades ago they were never allowed to pressure drivers in towns and the like, they could in the open. Fair game I guess, but actually stopping a car is more difficult that it looks

And that's the problem. The police in this country would be held accountable for the death of public and criminal alike, even 10 years after the even apparently. As an example from life:

If a police officer abandons a pursuit due to the erratic behaviour of the driver of the other car, and, some minutes later, and a mile away, the drunken driver piles it up, killing the passenger, the police officer is investigated, suspended from duties, and put in an office where he can't offend anyone's eyes.

What happens next depends on the pressure exerted by social media.

[vikingaero]

It's a shame they can't withdraw all the safety features of the car being chased - no airbags, no seatbelt pretensioners, no ABS/DSC etc.

[bigothunter]

vikingaero said:

It's a shame they can't withdraw all the safety features of the car being chased - no airbags, no seatbelt pretensioners, no ABS/DSC etc.

Would that apply to speeders as well? Or should they be shot on sight?

[Red9zero]

I saw the Police trying to stop a car on the M5 yesterday afternoon by throwing a stinger out. Problem was that there was one Police car doing the rolling road block, one chasing the bad guy (Mondeo estate by the look of it) and one parked on the hard shoulder with the stinger. He threw it out just as the car approached, but it was nowhere near long enough to cover the three lanes, so they just moved lanes and drove past it. It all looked a bit half hearted to me.

[E-bmw]

vikingaero said:

It's a shame they can't withdraw all the safety features of the car being chased - no airbags, no seatbelt pretensioners, no ABS/DSC etc.

How would that help?

[Missy Charm]

E-bmw said:

vikingaero said:

It's a shame they can't withdraw all the safety features of the car being chased - no airbags, no seatbelt pretensioners, no ABS/DSC etc.

How would that help?

Criminals are widely known to be safety conscious, especially with regards to self preservation, so wouldn't countenance anything as risky as getting involved in a car chase, if their cars weren't fitted with the full complement of safety features. Indeed, the first recorded car chase anywhere in the world happened in 1995, when notorious East End gangster Ron 'Rounders Bat' Reynolds said to accomplice Striper O'Reilly, 'this jam-jar's a Ford Mondeo Ghia, son. It's got ABS, twin airbags and fully comprehensive insurance. I'll just fill out this risk-assessment form and post it off to the HSE and then you can get the hammer down and lose the rozzers in the Astra behind us.'

[hidetheelephants]

mikees said:

https://www.teledyne-e2v.com/en-us/solutions/rf-po...


There are ‘cough smaller versions available. They have a tendency to hurt pacemakers etc tho.

Directed microwaves are a bit drastic, it's likely to fritz every car within a fair distance. It should work though.