PS5 vs PC

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I like a bit of VR racing. How come I fail to get my £1500+ PC (and Assetto Corso, Austomobilsta 2) to look anything like as good at GT7 on my relatively cheap PS5. Spent hours ttting around with settings, half tempted to sell the thing right now.

[Mastodon2]

Consoles tend to outperform for their price compared to PCs. PS5 will probably be upscaling the resolution to try and hold a stable 60fps. GT7 is a first party Sony game, so it will be as optimised for PS hardware as anything and should naturally look pretty good.

What settings are you using on PC? On top of that, a £1500 PC is pretty low end, so you can't expect the earth.

When measuring price for performance, consoles will always beat PCs. For ultimate performance when budget is not a concern, PCs will win.

[mmm-five]

Because you have a lower-end gaming PC (that has to do lots of stuff as well as gaming) vs an expensive gaming console (which is capped at 120 FPS and has been optimised for gaming with lower quality image scaling).

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Mastodon2 said:

Consoles tend to outperform for their price compared to PCs. PS5 will probably be upscaling the resolution to try and hold a stable 60fps. GT7 is a first party Sony game, so it will be as optimised for PS hardware as anything and should naturally look pretty good.

What settings are you using on PC? On top of that, a £1500 PC is pretty low end, so you can't expect the earth.

When measuring price for performance, consoles will always beat PCs. For ultimate performance when budget is not a concern, PCs will win.

It's i9, water cooled, and an RTX2080TI. Settings.. I generally start with 'High' to keep FPS high. It all looks a bit 'rough' especially distant trees, fences. And the shadows on the track are terrible. I've messed around with all the anti-aliasing types settings, over scaling etc. Bit bored of trying now as often need to quit the app & restart to see if anything changes. Bit of a faff with a headset on.

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I should say it was £1500 using 1-2 year old components, built together by a really good PC builder. New, would have been a chunk more ££

[MikeM6]

Crazy that £1500 is 'low end' for a pc, it's almost cheaper to buy a track car haha.

[Speckle]

You haven't mentioned the VR headset you're using on PC, could that be a factor.

RTX2080 is 3 generations old now, I suspect this is where your bottleneck is I always had to compromise the graphics for framerate with my RTX2080. I retired mine last year and upgraded to a PC running an RTX4080 and the difference is significant.

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Speckle said:

You haven't mentioned the VR headset you're using on PC, could that be a factor.

RTX2080 is 3 generations old now, I suspect this is where your bottleneck is I always had to compromise the graphics for framerate with my RTX2080. I retired mine last year and upgraded to a PC running an RTX4080 and the difference is significant.

I stuck with the 2080Ti as it has USB-C - and I connect the PSVR2 headset with this, as it's the best headset I've had. Nice OLED colours

[Greedydog]

To begin with you’re comparing a Sony 1st party game with games developed by very much smaller independent developers. From a sim POV I think the PC titles are more ‘simy’. Additionally GT7 is optimised for PS5, the others have to cater for a vast array of PC specs. Performance wise a PS5 is roughly equivalent to a 2060-2080 (depending on who you believe and the particular game) but there are a host of other factors here including, as mentioned above, the VR headset. So it’s apples to oranges.

[Motorman74]

EdT said:

Speckle said:

You haven't mentioned the VR headset you're using on PC, could that be a factor.

RTX2080 is 3 generations old now, I suspect this is where your bottleneck is I always had to compromise the graphics for framerate with my RTX2080. I retired mine last year and upgraded to a PC running an RTX4080 and the difference is significant.

I stuck with the 2080Ti as it has USB-C - and I connect the PSVR2 headset with this, as it's the best headset I've had. Nice OLED colours

You can get a better video card and a PSVR PC adapter - I use one and it does a great job. The 2080ti is more powerful than the PS5s GPU for sure, but as has been said before, GT7 is extremely well optimised for the platform it is on.

[geeks]

Tried Prject Cars at all? I haven’t used my oculus for a while but I do know that PC2 looked much better in VR than AC. Don’t forget as much as it is loved AC is over 10 years old

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geeks said:

Tried Prject Cars at all? I haven’t used my oculus for a while but I do know that PC2 looked much better in VR than AC. Don’t forget as much as it is loved AC is over 10 years old

I did try Project Cars 3 - didnt like it much

[Kamov]

Assetto corsa is nearly 10 years old, even with the modded CSP thing its showing its age, GT7 is the best looking driving game.
I have a RTX 2070 and it kills AC and AMS2 no problem, 120 plus FPS.
AMS2 is just PCars graphics engine so again quite old and will never look anywhere near GT7....

I have modded AC to the gills and thats why i use it and PC because of modding...

My PC cost me 500 quid.... And i make cars for AC....... looks ok to me...

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Kamov said:

I have a RTX 2070 and it kills AC and AMS2 no problem, 120 plus FPS.

Do you play with a headset?

[RichFN2]

I suspect your issue could be your graphics card.

I'm very new to gaming PC's but I recently bought a HP Omen 25 with a RTX 4070 super, I7, 16G DDR5 RAM etc and despite HP being stingy with the ram it runs much faster than my Xbox Series X. 190fps on some games compared to 60 on the Xbox.

Even when upscaling to 4K its still noticeably faster, and that's with ray tracing etc turned on.

FYI this cost me £1500 in a sale.

[ed40lew]

I'm both, i was Xbox Series X also at the time but just sold that recently since Forza went to Sony.

I having gaming PC which just over 3 year old now, runs a Nvidia 3080 Ti graphics card. It's still decent tbh in my eyes - probably will update it later in the year

But i'm really hooked on my PS5 Pro....such a great console.


The PC though i normally just use for simulator games like Euro Truck etc

tough to choose between the 2 really

[Kamov]

Assetto corsa is 10 years old, it will never ever look like the latest GT.
Its like playing Half Life on PC and asking why it doesn't look like Cyber Punk.

[gangzoom]

Have never played GT7, but Forza Motorsport running on a PC looks pretty good....the images though still look too perfect interms of lighting environments to fool the brain into thinking it's the real thing.





But Cyberpunk has bits when it really does feel like you are in a real car looking out at world!!!

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RichFN2 said:

I suspect your issue could be your graphics card.

I'm very new to gaming PC's but I recently bought a HP Omen 25 with a RTX 4070 super, I7, 16G DDR5 RAM etc and despite HP being stingy with the ram it runs much faster than my Xbox Series X. 190fps on some games compared to 60 on the Xbox.

Even when upscaling to 4K its still noticeably faster, and that's with ray tracing etc turned on.

FYI this cost me £1500 in a sale.

OK I'm going to borrow a RTX4070ti from a pal, will be interesting to see how much better this becomes.
You guys think that's enough fire-power??

[RichFN2]

EdT said:

RichFN2 said:

I suspect your issue could be your graphics card.

I'm very new to gaming PC's but I recently bought a HP Omen 25 with a RTX 4070 super, I7, 16G DDR5 RAM etc and despite HP being stingy with the ram it runs much faster than my Xbox Series X. 190fps on some games compared to 60 on the Xbox.

Even when upscaling to 4K its still noticeably faster, and that's with ray tracing etc turned on.

FYI this cost me £1500 in a sale.

OK I'm going to borrow a RTX4070ti from a pal, will be interesting to see how much better this becomes.
You guys think that's enough fire-power??

It should be, quick Google suggests its around 58% faster and will give you a much higher FPS rate, its also much newer.

Its a good mid range graphics card for 1440p gaming, you can get better for 1440p but the cost soon mounts up (4070ti is not exactly cheap)

I find it upscales to 4K fairly well, but if you want the best 4K performance you will need deep pockets.