RE: Aston Martin claims CarPlay Ultra world first

RE: Aston Martin claims CarPlay Ultra world first

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Aston Martin claims CarPlay Ultra world first

A more capable CarPlay has been discussed for a while - Aston is apparently the first OEM to feature it


It wasn’t very long ago at all that Aston Martin interiors were criticised for not integrating enough tech. Features were out of date, screens were too small and lacking resolution; the whole infotainment experience at least a generation behind that of its rivals. So how’s this for a turnaround: Aston Martin is now the first manufacturer in the world to offer CarPlay Ultra in its newer models. It’s said to bring together ‘the best of Aston Martin and the best of iPhone for the ultimate in-car experience.’

Ultra is essentially an extended version of the Apple smartphone mirroring that’s become a near-essential bit of kit in recent years. It can now take over the instrument cluster as well as the infotainment screen, and Ultra means climate and radio can be controlled by CarPlay as well. Those worried that cars are simply becoming four-wheeled phones best look away now; those who like the idea of a car being an extension of their device are going to be thrilled. 

Aston and Apple have worked together on design themes and customisation to ensure that there’s equal influence on the interface. However attached we are to our phones, if you’d spent £200k on an Aston you’d still want it to feel and look like one. So the layout aims to be ‘consistent with the brand’s unique design philosophy and remains instantly recognisable as Aston Martin’. Certainly what can be seen in the vid, with conventional-looking dials and ‘Handbuilt in Great Britain’ around them, ought to appease the traditionalists. Or you can have a huge map in Audi Virtual Cockpit style as one of ‘a number of seamlessly designed options’ for the driver’s display. Configurability and customisation in a new Aston no longer extend to just the leather and paint you’d like. 

Perhaps most importantly, the Applefication looks neat and cohesive, filling screen space as it should and not appearing to jar with the surroundings. That’s the benefit of the latest infotainment system - because it’s Aston’s own, it could talk directly to Apple about how CarPlay Ultra could be incorporated, rather than having to go through a parent company or supplier. Which probably will have helped in getting it to market first as well. Aston says the move ‘further cements the marque’s position at the forefront of technology and innovation.’  

While this next generation of a CarPlay will make it to more manufacturers in time, it’s an Aston-only thing for the moment. And from right now, too - albeit only for the USA and Canada, though every global market will get it in the next 12 months. Don’t fret if you’ve just placed an order, either, as Ultra will be available as a dealer-fit upgrade over time on all those cars with the current infotainment. All that’s required is an iPhone 12 or later (those with new Astons surely don’t have old phones) and up-to-date software - iOS 18.54 or later. Best not show any friends with a DB11 or DBS once it’s done, though; they’ll die of jealousy. 

Adrian Hallmark added: “The integration of CarPlay Ultra is a clear example of the dedication to collaborate with the best companies in the world to bring unique experiences and in-vehicle capabilities to our customers. Building on our in-house state-of-the-art infotainment system, CarPlay Ultra will provide additional functionality and personalisation opportunities which place Aston Martin at the forefront of infotainment in the sector.” The latest range of Astons gets more desirable still…


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garypotter

Original Poster:

1,856 posts

163 months

Yesterday (14:15)
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Wow AM reaching a new low, who buys a car like an AM to be able to us car play. is tha the grim reaper knocking on the door of AM??

Muzzer79

11,773 posts

200 months

Yesterday (14:18)
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garypotter said:
Wow AM reaching a new low, who buys a car like an AM to be able to us car play. is tha the grim reaper knocking on the door of AM??
confused

I don't think anybody buys an Aston Martin specifically to be able to use car play

But having it is not a detriment? It's not less of an Aston because it has a certain tech feature.

I have no idea why you think this relates to the 'grim reaper' knocking on the door?

andy43

11,347 posts

267 months

Yesterday (14:23)
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I think that’s quite an impressive coup considering Astons size.
Not sure it’s a valuable selling point but it does prove the wonky Ford dash vents and other obviously generic bits are well behind them. Good on ‘em.

Juan B

504 posts

17 months

Yesterday (14:23)
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garypotter said:
Wow AM reaching a new low, who buys a car like an AM to be able to us car play. is tha the grim reaper knocking on the door of AM??
I don't think the main reason people were buying Astons was for the standard infotainment system.

Car play usually integrates well, and its not as if its replacing nice analogue dials or anything.

Tiglon

324 posts

55 months

Yesterday (14:27)
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I'm not clear quite what this does that isn't already possible in every new car? And why would you want CarPlay to control climate? I thought the point of CarPlay was to put your phone function into the car, not the other way round? Why is having the map in the instrument cluster better than the central screen?

So many questions, and yet.... not even slightly interested in the answers.

cannedrex2406

13 posts

62 months

Yesterday (14:28)
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honestly, good on Aston for being able to take advantage of this. theyve always been painfully outdated in terms of interior tech (remember the ste volvo systems as late as the final year Vanquishs, or the god awful outdated Merc systems until recently?)

Plus Apple have done this before, where they introduced Carplay first in the Ferrari FF, before it trickled down to more mainstream brands like Hyundai and Honda. its not a weird thing for them to debut a new system on a lower volume brand first to gain insights and stats

cannedrex2406

13 posts

62 months

Yesterday (14:31)
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Tiglon said:
I'm not clear quite what this does that isn't already possible in every new car? And why would you want CarPlay to control climate? I thought the point of CarPlay was to put your phone function into the car, not the other way round? Why is having the map in the instrument cluster better than the central screen?

So many questions, and yet.... not even slightly interested in the answers.
cause modern car infotainments are so complicated and confusing, we need a company that makes genuinely good UI for a more streamlined interface.

the same thing was needed back in the early 2010s, where it was impossible to buy a single car, as they all used different navigation and infotainment systems, that people would ignore a genuinely good car cause the "sat nav was a bit crap". Carplay and android auto came in and solved that massively

CountyLines

2,579 posts

16 months

Yesterday (14:34)
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garypotter said:
Wow AM reaching a new low, who buys a car like an AM to be able to us car play. is tha the grim reaper knocking on the door of AM??
So let me get this straight. After years of criticism of their interior tech, AM have leapfrogged to the forefront of integration and you're saying it will doom them?

rofl

Tiglon

324 posts

55 months

Yesterday (14:36)
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cannedrex2406 said:
Tiglon said:
I'm not clear quite what this does that isn't already possible in every new car? And why would you want CarPlay to control climate? I thought the point of CarPlay was to put your phone function into the car, not the other way round? Why is having the map in the instrument cluster better than the central screen?

So many questions, and yet.... not even slightly interested in the answers.
cause modern car infotainments are so complicated and confusing, we need a company that makes genuinely good UI for a more streamlined interface.

the same thing was needed back in the early 2010s, where it was impossible to buy a single car, as they all used different navigation and infotainment systems, that people would ignore a genuinely good car cause the "sat nav was a bit crap". Carplay and android auto came in and solved that massively
I get that CarPlay is a useful thing. I like CarPlay. But what exactly makes CarPlay ULTRA such a big deal?

Gastons_Revenge

446 posts

17 months

Yesterday (14:41)
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Tiglon said:
I get that CarPlay is a useful thing. I like CarPlay. But what exactly makes CarPlay ULTRA such a big deal?
Did you try reading the article?

Andy86GT

601 posts

78 months

Yesterday (14:50)
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Wouldn't it be great if manufacturers could invent a way of having some dedicated controls for HVAC or the radio..

bigyoungdave

241 posts

40 months

Yesterday (14:50)
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Tiglon said:
I'm not clear quite what this does that isn't already possible in every new car? And why would you want CarPlay to control climate? I thought the point of CarPlay was to put your phone function into the car, not the other way round? Why is having the map in the instrument cluster better than the central screen?

So many questions, and yet.... not even slightly interested in the answers.
Just to answer one point, on my BMW I have the map on the big screen to the side but it does also give a small map in the instrument cluster between the speedo and rev counter. I actually really like it. Not necessarily for a navigational tool but especially on windy country roads at nights I can at a glance see what road profile is up ahead (the HUD would be even better I assume, but I haven't got that)

Tiglon

324 posts

55 months

Yesterday (14:54)
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Gastons_Revenge said:
Tiglon said:
I get that CarPlay is a useful thing. I like CarPlay. But what exactly makes CarPlay ULTRA such a big deal?
Did you try reading the article?
Yes, I did. Having maps on different screens seems to be the most exciting thing. However, that's not at all exciting. So here we are....

modeller

494 posts

179 months

Yesterday (14:55)
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Tiglon said:
I get that CarPlay is a useful thing. I like CarPlay. But what exactly makes CarPlay ULTRA such a big deal?
iPhone now can display on the head unit and cluster (so effectively 3 screens). I assume on the HUD too (so 4 ). Ultra also has access to more of the vehicle functions (heating, etc)

Edited by modeller on Thursday 15th May 14:57

mattlacey

94 posts

214 months

Yesterday (14:58)
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Bleh. So when Apple drop support for it in 5 years, then what happens?

Darinz

171 posts

74 months

Yesterday (15:01)
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If I could have this in my Mercedes to get rid of the hideous Mercedes UI, I would be a happy man!


Tiglon

324 posts

55 months

Yesterday (15:07)
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modeller said:
Tiglon said:
I get that CarPlay is a useful thing. I like CarPlay. But what exactly makes CarPlay ULTRA such a big deal?
iPhone now can display on the head unit and cluster (so effectively 3 screens). I assume on the HUD too (so 4 ). Ultra also has access to more of the vehicle functions (heating, etc)

Edited by modeller on Thursday 15th May 14:57
I think you misread my post, I was asking what makes this a big deal, not what moderate but largely useless upgrades are included.

How is controlling climate through CarPlay better than controlling it in a different way? Genuine question, no sarcasm intended.

Andy86GT

601 posts

78 months

Yesterday (15:10)
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bigyoungdave said:
Tiglon said:
I'm not clear quite what this does that isn't already possible in every new car? And why would you want CarPlay to control climate? I thought the point of CarPlay was to put your phone function into the car, not the other way round? Why is having the map in the instrument cluster better than the central screen?

So many questions, and yet.... not even slightly interested in the answers.
Just to answer one point, on my BMW I have the map on the big screen to the side but it does also give a small map in the instrument cluster between the speedo and rev counter. I actually really like it. Not necessarily for a navigational tool but especially on windy country roads at nights I can at a glance see what road profile is up ahead (the HUD would be even better I assume, but I haven't got that)
I agree, this is a useful benefit that Android Auto also offers in my BMW, which is just as well because if I want to adjust my HVAC I've to press a button that means the nav on the main screen disappears. Genius. I assume using Car play also does this but after two trips to the dealer it's presently not working...

Mammasaid

4,676 posts

110 months

Yesterday (15:21)
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Tiglon said:
modeller said:
Tiglon said:
I get that CarPlay is a useful thing. I like CarPlay. But what exactly makes CarPlay ULTRA such a big deal?
iPhone now can display on the head unit and cluster (so effectively 3 screens). I assume on the HUD too (so 4 ). Ultra also has access to more of the vehicle functions (heating, etc)

Edited by modeller on Thursday 15th May 14:57
I think you misread my post, I was asking what makes this a big deal, not what moderate but largely useless upgrades are included.

How is controlling climate through CarPlay better than controlling it in a different way? Genuine question, no sarcasm intended.
Having watched this, I think it's Apple's take on Android Automotive, by which I mean that Apple or Google do what they do best as software developers thus leaving the vehicle manufacturer to just feed in to the relevant systems.

Edited by Mammasaid on Thursday 15th May 15:25

paradigital

1,028 posts

165 months

Yesterday (15:22)
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Tiglon said:
I think you misread my post, I was asking what makes this a big deal, not what moderate but largely useless upgrades are included.

How is controlling climate through CarPlay better than controlling it in a different way? Genuine question, no sarcasm intended.
One would assume because you could use Siri voice commands (which work), rather than rely on whatever godawful voice processing and commands are available by the OEM, that usually results in shouting and nothing useful happening as a result.

It would also allow (in theory) to have one set of configuration settings across multiple cars and brands, a bit like the car setting up a few functions based on which key was used, this would allow you to have the same climate and radio settings in your weekend toy Aston as it would in your daily E class.