Wales - why do people go abroad!
Wales - why do people go abroad!
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Bungleaio

6,587 posts

232 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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I love Wales and have done a lot of miles enjoying it in cars and bikes particularly around the Elan Valley, the only draw back is that more often than not it rains.

Once I went from Saundersfoot on the south coast to Conwy on the north, it was heavy rain all day and I didn't have proper waterproofs with me, it was a miserable experience. When I got to a McDonalds a member of staff put a wet floor sign next to me as I'd dripped on the floor so much.


black-k1

12,799 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Wales has some great roads. I'm going there in 10 days but, if you don't understand why people ride to the Picos, the Pyrenees, the Alps or the Dolomites then I'd guess you've never been.

Marquezs Stabilisers

2,521 posts

91 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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The weather is one thing. In the north, the people are another. Got offered a fight because I didn't speak Welsh. I'm from Glasgow...was typical of the attitude. I was there with a group of English folk and the overt hatred was stunning. We were advised to leave town by the police in one place.

black-k1

12,799 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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anonymous said:
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Just a wild guess but perhaps it's because Wales is not on the route to the Picos, the Pyrenees, the Alps or the Dolomites?

jjones

4,489 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Have ridden extensively in Wales and also the Picos. The Picos is more than worth the motorway miles to the ferry.

lukeyman

1,100 posts

165 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
The weather is one thing. In the north, the people are another. Got offered a fight because I didn't speak Welsh. I'm from Glasgow...was typical of the attitude. I was there with a group of English folk and the overt hatred was stunning. We were advised to leave town by the police in one place.
Wales; why people go abroad!

KTMsm

28,982 posts

293 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Just spent 3 days riding 450 miles around Welsh green lanes and in this weather it was on a par with anywhere in the world

BUT this sunny week is not usual Welsh weather

The Police there are fairly anti English, anti speed and anti motorcycle which doesn't encourage me to visit too often for road motorcycling

There are huge areas in Europe that are far more deserted far more likely to be dry and it's impossible to end up with a UK driving ban biggrin


Pica-Pica

16,622 posts

114 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
The weather is one thing. In the north, the people are another. Got offered a fight because I didn't speak Welsh. I'm from Glasgow...was typical of the attitude. I was there with a group of English folk and the overt hatred was stunning. We were advised to leave town by the police in one place.
Yeah - right. We moved from Essex to N.W. Wales, 10 years ago, and we could not have met a nicer bunch of people. You get back what you give, as ever in life.

hiccy18

4,161 posts

97 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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I'd say the same about the Highlands, Cairngorms, Galloway, Borders, Lakes and North Pennines, but I'm still hopping on a ferry to head to the Alps next month. There's great roads in most countries (not convinced by Holland) so no need for big schleps unless you choose to.

SS427 Camaro

8,663 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Because Europe is ruddy awesome. Scamera free, imaculate roads, great weather, stunning scenery blah blah blah. Off on the 98 R1 in June for a few days in France, on my jack, cannot wait…..

KTMsm

28,982 posts

293 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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SS427 Camaro said:
Because Europe is ruddy awesome. Scamera free, imaculate roads, great weather, stunning scenery blah blah blah. Off on the 98 R1 in June for a few days in France, on my jack, cannot wait…..
France is far from scamera free !

I was shocked how many cameras and speed traps I saw and I was on quieter country roads

You can't get a UK ban but you can get some horrific fines

FezSpider

1,132 posts

262 months

Tuesday 20th May 2025
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Hi, can you tell me is that a riding app? I have never used one. Can you tell me more about it? Thanks

Bob_Defly

5,873 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
The weather is one thing. In the north, the people are another. Got offered a fight because I didn't speak Welsh. I'm from Glasgow...was typical of the attitude. I was there with a group of English folk and the overt hatred was stunning. We were advised to leave town by the police in one place.
LOL, same. The North Wales Police really hate the English too.

Han Solo

279 posts

55 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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Bob_Defly said:
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
The weather is one thing. In the north, the people are another. Got offered a fight because I didn't speak Welsh. I'm from Glasgow...was typical of the attitude. I was there with a group of English folk and the overt hatred was stunning. We were advised to leave town by the police in one place.
LOL, same. The North Wales Police really hate the English too.
Having lived on the border for 30 odd years and regularly travelled all over North and South Wales on my motorbike and various cars, I can’t say I’ve ever seen nor heard of this, not myself nor a single one of my friends / family.

My parents have a had a place in Caernarfon, now Anglesey, most of my friends have places on the Llyn Peninsular, my brother went to Uni in Bangor and still absolutely zero issues.

Perhaps it isn’t the locals that are the problem.

ETA; the Police are most certainly anti-speed, so ensure Waze is set up!

Triaguar

928 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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Because it's not a case of ...'either or' you can do 'As well as'

JaseB

921 posts

291 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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Check out the Yorkshire 'TT' route for another time, the road from Hawes to the Ribblehead Viaduct is absolutely beautiful!

The Rutland 'TT' route isn't bad either and you get to have a pork pie for lunch in Melton Mowbray biglaugh

Biker9090

1,889 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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Because dam near everywhere in this country is fking rammed full of traffic/roadworks and the absolute dregs of society buggering about at 40mph in a 60 zone with about 15 cars behind them.

I've spent a lot of time in Wales over the last few years including the Dragon/Bruce Pollard Rallies in February doing 5/700 miles over a weekend. I've also gone into Brecon for a few day trips from Reading (350 ish miles round trip). Each time you've got to deal with horrendous traffic on the way there and back, strong police presence and awful road surface quality.

The last two years I've toured in Europe and it's VASTLY better.

The Picos are (overwhelmingly but not completely without fault) full of non deteriorated road surfaces, VERY little traffic, significantly better food and equally if not more stunning views. The same goes for parts of Luxembourg, Germany, France etc etc.

Plus some of us like to enjoy and experience other cultures....

Scotland, Cornwall, The Lakes etc etc etc have the same problem. FAR too much traffic, FAR too many avg speed cameras and roads akin to the surface of the moon.

Marquezs Stabilisers

2,521 posts

91 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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Pica-Pica said:
Yeah - right. We moved from Essex to N.W. Wales, 10 years ago, and we could not have met a nicer bunch of people. You get back what you give, as ever in life.
I'm pleased for you it has worked out differently. As regards your last sentence, I was having a piss in a pub urinal when the guy had a go at me. Not sure what I gave out. As it happens we were there as tourists. I don't have to go back, so I won't

Marquezs Stabilisers

2,521 posts

91 months

Wednesday 21st May 2025
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hiccy18 said:
I'd say the same about the Highlands, Cairngorms, Galloway, Borders, Lakes and North Pennines, but I'm still hopping on a ferry to head to the Alps next month. There's great roads in most countries (not convinced by Holland) so no need for big schleps unless you choose to.
Never found a decent road in Holland. At least it is small so you can get out quickly.