Please help , engine report

Please help , engine report

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BMWhelp

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Friday 23rd May
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Please can someone help me , If a engine has been completely stripped and left in the back seat of a car for 18 months , on a drive way .

if it was put back together could an fully accurate diagnosis report every be done with it been out of the car for 18 months

thanks so much

andrewcliffe

1,282 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd May
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To determine the cause of the reason it was dismantled? Unlikely. The parts could be examined and a deduction could possibly be made form those.

E-bmw

11,007 posts

166 months

Friday 23rd May
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Personally, if I was looking for an engine & was offered one under those circumstances, I would call it scrap.

BMWhelp

Original Poster:

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Friday 23rd May
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Sorry, I wondered if the fact it’s been in the back seat of a car for 18 months dismantled, we could still get a full annd accurate engine report as to why the car stopped working ???

E-bmw

11,007 posts

166 months

Friday 23rd May
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OK, I will rephrase that.

Is this your engine in your car that you know the history of, and intend to rebuild yourself, and have catalogued all parts upon removal?

If not I personally would call it scrap & certainly not worth re-assembling or getting an engine expert to look at, as it will likely cost more to do that than to buy a replacement.

InitialDave

13,143 posts

133 months

Friday 23rd May
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BMWhelp said:
Sorry, I wondered if the fact it’s been in the back seat of a car for 18 months dismantled, we could still get a full annd accurate engine report as to why the car stopped working ???
Because it was owned by the kind of person who would dismantle an engine and leave it in a back seat for 18 months.

LunarOne

6,315 posts

151 months

Friday 23rd May
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Yes, you could find out why the engine stopped working, but only if you could be sure that the parts are all present and haven't been tampered with or replaced in the meantine. Also, some valuable evidence (such as engine oil and coolant and where they were found) are likely to no longer be available. So while it's not as good as stripping the engine down right after the breakdown, it should still be possible.

BMWhelp

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Friday 23rd May
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so the garage stripped it did their own report and then refused to put the engine back in the car so it has been in the car back seat for 18 months, now they are been made to put it back in by the ombudsman but can we get a full engine report from a engine that been in bits for 18 month re need a report on the EGR cooler ?

LunarOne

6,315 posts

151 months

Friday 23rd May
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BMWhelp said:
so the garage stripped it did their own report and then refused to put the engine back in the car so it has been in the car back seat for 18 months, now they are been made to put it back in by the ombudsman but can we get a full engine report from a engine that been in bits for 18 month re need a report on the EGR cooler ?
It depends on how the parts have been stored. If the car was out in direct sunlight, plastic and rubber components including housings, hoses and belts might have deteriorated due to exposure to UV light. Normally theser components are under the bonnet and kept in dark conditions so they don't deteriorate. Without new parts, the engine may never run again even if there is no mechanical damaged. It is a FAR from ideal situation.

BMWhelp

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Yep it’s a nightmare

The Conflated Outlier

176 posts

27 months

Friday 23rd May
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BMWhelp said:
Please can someone help me , If a engine has been completely stripped and left in the back seat of a car for 18 months , on a drive way .

if it was put back together could an fully accurate diagnosis report every be done with it been out of the car for 18 months

thanks so much
No.

It's in bits for a reason, i.e it's shagged.

What BMW is it? They don't have the greatest reputation for longevity but throw us a bone.

BMWhelp

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Friday 23rd May
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They stripped it and said it had an engine fail , we said ok , we will get our own independent engine diagnosis , they said okay that’s fine. We will refit the engine and you can collect it. We sent a tow truck and the engine was over 300 pieces thrown in the back of the car and that’s where it stayed for 18 months while this dispute continues. It’s a 2018 series 3.

Now the ombudman have told them they have to apologise and refit the engine, so that we can get our own engine report my question is whether that can be obtained 18 months later while it’s just sat in the back of a car !

Bemmer

1,177 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd May
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BMWhelp said:


Now the ombudman have told them they have to apologise and refit the engine, so that we can get our own engine report my question is whether that can be obtained 18 months later while it’s just sat in the back of a car !
Can you post a copy of the said correspondence stating the Ombudsman have told them they have to 'apologise' and refit the engine"

LunarOne

6,315 posts

151 months

Friday 23rd May
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Bemmer said:
BMWhelp said:


Now the ombudman have told them they have to apologise and refit the engine, so that we can get our own engine report my question is whether that can be obtained 18 months later while it’s just sat in the back of a car !
Can you post a copy of the said correspondence stating the Ombudsman have told them they have to 'apologise' and refit the engine"
Wow, why should he do that? Don't you believe the OP? It's not as if it's an outragous claim!

essayer

10,162 posts

208 months

Friday 23rd May
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half term

InitialDave

13,143 posts

133 months

Friday 23rd May
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What did they claim the fault was specifically? Could just have those components checked to see if they're telling the truth.

I feel we're very much getting drip fed half the story here.

Can I surmise that you took the car to them not running right, they thought they were authorised to dismantle the engine to perform a proper diagnosis, and you didn't.
When you declined what they said the repair would cost, they thought they should be paid for the work done so far and you didn't.
The ombudsman agreed, and so now they must return it to the state you gave it to them in.

Now, at this stage, I think it sounds like you're several charred bridges past the original garage fixing it, so you need someone else, but want to know if they'll be able to separate out your original fault, from anything the garage caused themselves, from anything due to it being sat in bits for a year.

My opinion is maybe, but good luck.

I suspect your best resolution is either bite the bullet and cough up for a full rebuild, or sling in a good used replacement engine.

Do you know which model/engine it is?

Bemmer

1,177 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd May
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LunarOne said:
Bemmer said:
BMWhelp said:


Now the ombudman have told them they have to apologise and refit the engine, so that we can get our own engine report my question is whether that can be obtained 18 months later while it’s just sat in the back of a car !
Can you post a copy of the said correspondence stating the Ombudsman have told them they have to 'apologise' and refit the engine"
Wow, why should he do that? Don't you believe the OP? It's not as if it's an outragous claim!
Well i do get a wiff of somthing...? And it's not 18 month old engine oil...! hehe

E-bmw

11,007 posts

166 months

Friday 23rd May
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BMWhelp said:
They stripped it and said it had an engine fail , we said ok , we will get our own independent engine diagnosis , they said okay that’s fine. We will refit the engine and you can collect it. We sent a tow truck and the engine was over 300 pieces thrown in the back of the car and that’s where it stayed for 18 months while this dispute continues. It’s a 2018 series 3.

Now the ombudman have told them they have to apologise and refit the engine, so that we can get our own engine report my question is whether that can be obtained 18 months later while it’s just sat in the back of a car !
So we are now starting to get somewhat closer to the actual full story.

Bemmer

1,177 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd May
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E-bmw said:
So we are now starting to get somewhat closer to the actual full story.
Yes definitely a 'Story'

ComStrike

431 posts

107 months

Friday 23rd May
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BMWhelp said:
They stripped it and said it had an engine fail , we said ok , we will get our own independent engine diagnosis , they said okay that’s fine. We will refit the engine and you can collect it. We sent a tow truck and the engine was over 300 pieces thrown in the back of the car and that’s where it stayed for 18 months while this dispute continues. It’s a 2018 series 3.

Now the ombudman have told them they have to apologise and refit the engine, so that we can get our own engine report my question is whether that can be obtained 18 months later while it’s just sat in the back of a car !
Ok then….

Who is paying for all this ?