Card machine charity begging
Card machine charity begging
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Gavin0478

Original Poster:

480 posts

161 months

Tuesday 27th May
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Is just me but has anyone else noticed this sudden influx?
Instead of being able to just pay for your purchase by card (contactless or insert and pin) that nearly every shop is trying to get you to donate to random charities.
I am now at an age where I need reading glasses but I often dont carry them when I nip to get shopping, some shoes, maybe some car parts etc and I do feel this is a very sly way to try and get these donations as on some machines you have to touch an area, on others you need to press the red button etc, all in a very small font on the screen, much smaller than when the cost of your goods are displayed (good job i'm not colour blind, partially sighted or dyslexic) and then only sometimes the cashier will even alert you to this.

Yes I do donate to charity, but it's the ones chosen by myself and when I feel I can afford to.

WelshRich

483 posts

77 months

Tuesday 27th May
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It does seem to be spreading, but in my experience the cashier often leans over and clears the donation option as a matter of course…

N111BJG

1,221 posts

83 months

Tuesday 27th May
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I had a meal in a pub which is part of a small local chain of similar establishments, they proudly announced that they had raised £5,000 for local charities over the past year or so.

This was achieved by automatically adding £1 to every bill. What a bloody cheek !!

littleowl

856 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th May
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It's the chip & pin equivalent of the 'buy me a coffee' grift that is rampant across social media.

dxg

9,846 posts

280 months

Tuesday 27th May
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It helps with the ESG metrics... :/

thetapeworm

13,092 posts

259 months

Tuesday 27th May
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I had an "optional" extra on a restaurant bill the other day for a "Gift Tree", this was on top of the "optional" 12.35% service charge (which I didn't begrudge as the service was good).




Countdown

46,294 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th May
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Noticed a £4 charge on the TUI website when booking our holiday. I thought I had removed it but somehow they sneaked it back on.

Frimley111R

17,831 posts

254 months

Wednesday 28th May
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In some places i don't mind it, for example in McDonalds I always click the round up button but if it's adding a tree planting to my dinner bill then I wouldn't like that.

Stick Legs

8,030 posts

185 months

Wednesday 28th May
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McDonalds record with charity is very good and verifiable, and the Ronald McDonald House initiative is a good one.

Others I don't bother with. My normal (curmudgeonly) rule with charities is that if it's not 100% clear where the donation goes, or if the CEO of the charity is on £600k a year salary they can FRO.

Cotty

41,643 posts

304 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Is there any benefit to the shop to have the donation option show up on the card machine?
Thing is it doesn't make the shop look any better, as any money raised isn't coming from their pocket.

It appears most people don't like it and if people want to give to charity then they will have their own preferences.

ThingsBehindTheSun

2,754 posts

51 months

Wednesday 28th May
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It annoys me that a company making billions a year in profits are expecting me to donate to charity. This goes double in super markets where I know they are throwing away thousands of tons of food a year rather than donating it to charity as they don't want the hassle/risk of being sued.

Same as celebrities such as U2 and Bob Geldof who no doubt have millions in offshore tax avoidance schemes telling me to donate money. If you are so worried about it give away all your wealth.

JoshSm

2,497 posts

57 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Countdown said:
Noticed a £4 charge on the TUI website when booking our holiday. I thought I had removed it but somehow they sneaked it back on.
A cynic would wonder if the removal feature actually works; a reasonable percentage of people will untick the box, but how many will chase the £4 'mistake'? Or would try it again under controlled conditions to check it isn't broken?

There's plenty of nice types out there who'd see that sort of cheat as perfectly ethical in pursuit of the greater good.


As someone said earlier I prefer to make my own choices about what I donate to and having people try their little coercive games & nudges turns me right off.

anonymous-user

74 months

Saturday 31st May
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thetapeworm said:
I had an "optional" extra on a restaurant bill the other day for a "Gift Tree", this was on top of the "optional" 12.35% service charge (which I didn't begrudge as the service was good).

Ambling firmly off topic here but it should, IMHO, be against the law to automatically add anything described as optional to a bill, it s deeply underhand and borderline dishonest. It s a surefire way to end a dining experience on a sour note by having to ask to remove it for whatever reason. We went to a chain restaurant a while back and had to refuse the dessert, which had clearly been wrongly defrosted/prepped or whatever, and the bill still came out with an optional service charged whacked on it. The problem with the meal obviously wasn t the fault of the waiting staff, who did a perfectly decent job, but equally I m not f*cking tipping the place when they can t even defrost and serve a couple of standard dishes from their mainstream menu. Having to ask to have it removed was a particularly unpleasant way to end the meal.

Back to charidee stuff, Motor Fuels Group (MFG) forecourts I find always have the charitable giving thing pop up on their chip and pin machines, but the staff almost always cancel it before taking payment.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 31st May 01:01

Alex Z

1,925 posts

96 months

Saturday 31st May
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thetapeworm said:
I had an "optional" extra on a restaurant bill the other day for a "Gift Tree", this was on top of the "optional" 12.35% service charge (which I didn't begrudge as the service was good).

If I was certain that this was actually happening (and it being something bigger than a stick) then I’d be quite happy to donate if asked. Less keen on it being sneaked in.

Crumpet

4,846 posts

200 months

Saturday 31st May
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A partial solution to this nonsense, for restaurants at least, is to leave reviews with a score that will bring their average down and clearly state why.

I’ve often been fobbed off in hotels and restaurants for various (justified) complaints but as soon as you leave a review on Google or Tripadvisor they’re quickly in touch offering free nights or meals.

Sadly there are probably lots of people out there who leave a bad review as a matter of course in order to get these ‘freebies’ - extortion basically. I’m sure I read somewhere it’s a classic Instagrammer trick.

Actual

1,517 posts

126 months

Saturday 31st May
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An optional customer donation would be much more acceptable if the business matched the amount of the donation.

RammyMP

7,393 posts

173 months

Saturday 31st May
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In Cumbria Booths supermarkets do it on the card machine, red for no, green to donate. I don’t mind giving them 25p as it goes to the local mountain rescue units and I might need them one day!

davek_964

10,477 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st May
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Seems Lidl have started doing it. Saw it just now for the first time.

Super Josh

255 posts

239 months

Saturday 31st May
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davek_964 said:
Seems Lidl have started doing it. Saw it just now for the first time.
And our local Aldi too frown

davek_964

10,477 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st May
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I wonder how far away we are from them following the restaurant model : Added by default and you need to ask to have it taken off .....